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chaparro
01-07-2006, 05:10 AM
the original post here has been edited by me, thorysus only to add this stament. Everything below it is as it was originaly.
This is a new section for all links of this room to be posted on. Please keep all your post and replies to them in here, its sort of like a content links but for this room only. Thanks!!!
bushin30seconds, funny just check
http://www.bushin30seconds.org/
ForeignAffairz
01-07-2006, 09:09 AM
not a very user friendly site at first, but after that it was pretty damn funny.
Reservoir Dog
01-08-2006, 04:19 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/08/international/middleeast/08cnd-iraq.html?hp&ex=1136782800&en=e6b2fe88157cab8c&ei=5094&partner=homepage
^^^^^
The link
ForeignAffairz
01-09-2006, 05:50 AM
By far the funniest shit i've seen on Bush. I die laughing everytime lmfao.
"We must offer every child in America three nuclear missles...Thank you. (http://media.ebaumsworld.com/wmv/presaddress.wmv)"
ForeignAffairz
01-09-2006, 05:54 AM
Mike Myers and Kanya West (http://media.ebaumsworld.com/wmv/kanyewest.wmv) speaking about hurricane Katrinna relief. Classic.
---Make sure to watch till the very end lmao.
ForeignAffairz
01-09-2006, 06:01 AM
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9853/bushmonkey3dm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
chaparro
01-09-2006, 11:43 AM
ahaha thats some funny shit there bro
Reservoir Dog
01-09-2006, 01:56 PM
i especialy the part about the american flag stands for.... lol great looking out cheers :D:D:D:D
Sanitarium
01-09-2006, 02:53 PM
FA-- where'd you find that Monkey pic? I just enlarged it and printed it out. It's fixin to be hung in my office..... Good Find Sir.........
Fucking jackass!!!! I cant stand that fucker!!!
He has NO talent what-so-ever!!
I laugh my ass off every time I see that ignorant fucker.
Bush does not hate Black People. He hates Poor People. Get it rite.
chaparro
01-10-2006, 12:25 AM
lol ya i remember that shit and the look on mike myers face lol
He, spike lee, jesse jackson and al sharpton should all do the elephant walk down hollwood blvd. Thats all they are is big fat elephants holdin each others dicks looking to stur some meaningless bullshit up! We would really be better off without them
Sanitarium
01-10-2006, 05:44 AM
He, spike lee, jesse jackson and al sharpton should all do the elephant walk down hollwood blvd. Thats all they are is big fat elephants holdin each others dicks looking to stur some meaningless bullshit up! We would really be better off without them
I couldn't have said it better myself!! Jackson is the biggest asshat out of them all in my opinion......
Besides what church does REV. Jackson preach at?
colored_gem
01-10-2006, 06:13 AM
I didnt watch it til the very end. I cant deal with extremely rich people that can't properly formulate or deliver a speech. He is a fucking performer what the hell is he getting up there stuttering and shaking for?
ForeignAffairz
01-10-2006, 07:33 AM
FA-- where'd you find that Monkey pic? I just enlarged it and printed it out. It's fixin to be hung in my office..... Good Find Sir.........
ive seen it around, but i just googled it in images 'Bush Monkey'
want to see something even funnier?
go to google and type in the word FAILURE and click on the FIRST link LMFAO!
lawngnome
01-12-2006, 12:14 AM
ive seen it around, but i just googled it in images 'Bush Monkey'
want to see something even funnier?
go to google and type in the word FAILURE and click on the FIRST link LMFAO!
I'd like to put this bumper sticker on my car just to get a rise out of people.
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/490/liquidexjesus7pe.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
lawngnome
01-12-2006, 12:26 AM
Kanye West is an extremely talented performer who should voice his opinion on everything he sees fit. Nah, j/k check this clip of the egomaniac. (Wait thru 10 sec. ad)
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2684817?showw=no&refsite=6166
ForeignAffairz
01-12-2006, 12:31 AM
hahaha...what a whiney biatch in a fruitcake sweater. what is he thinking...we will never know. good link.
demetrius
01-12-2006, 12:36 AM
he's allways bitchin about something, i recall watching another clip when he was upset about the mtv awards of some sort. his problem is to much to soon
I've said it once and I'll say it a million times. If Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton are reverands, then I'm the Dali Lama with a crew cut.
Darkwolf
01-12-2006, 07:30 AM
I hate selfrighteous pricks like this who always have to play the race card. It was a fucking hurricane. But all you hear is the standred line " It's just another plot perpetrated by the man to keep a brother down" :upyours:
ForeignAffairz
01-13-2006, 09:02 AM
I've said it once and I'll say it a million times. If Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton are reverands, then I'm the Dali Lama with a crew cut.
hahahahah thats some funny ass shit duck...i like that shit lmao
demetrius
01-13-2006, 12:37 PM
didnt he get in a near fatal accident? anyways still funny to see the face of mike myers
Stranger
01-14-2006, 04:59 PM
Just found this website could be interesting to those who want to know what is realy happening in the world.
www.thetruthisnodefense.com
revidffum
01-14-2006, 10:21 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/09/terrorism.mail.reut/index.htmlYou have to wonder just how abusive our government will get. The patriot act is not a very Constitution friendly document, in fact, not one...that is VERY IMPORTANT...NOT ONE SINGLE Congressmen, Senetor, or Represenitive to the house read the entire bill before passing it...there excuse...it was over 300 pages long and would have taken to long!!!!! I don't know about you...but that seems pretty fucked up to me.
revidffum
01-14-2006, 10:39 PM
I would be intrested to know EXACTLY what this guy said. But it does make you think, the times are changing fast...and not for the better. We send soldiers to a foreign land so they can die fighting for democracy overseas, all of the rights and freedoms our own politicians are trying to take away from us in our own back yard.
demetrius
01-14-2006, 10:39 PM
the guy in the pic looks like a hobbit. but on a serious note its a shame the extents people will go through to try and demolish peoples rights and the shit they come up with
revidffum
01-15-2006, 04:25 PM
After reading this story, I couldn't help but thinking...if they let us perform covert operations on there soil...things like this could be avoided. I think it is sad that innocents end up dying in these attacks, but they are necessary. We have a job to do...and this is the region we need to be doing it in.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10842035/
Redneck
01-16-2006, 03:52 AM
We have to get these fuckers. It's up to us. This is our fight. I want their children frozen on sticks like adolescent little Jesus popsicles. I want their wives in our porn section, especially if they're hugely fat. I want the men's genitals refridgerated and laughed at by certified blow up dolls and then run over by monster trucks.
http://www.ihateclowns.com/
('bout a hundred posts to a psychotic break around here, whaddya think?)
DarkDiva
01-16-2006, 07:17 AM
http://www.funsnap.com/1/bushgirl.swf
This is ONE UGLY WOMAN!!! LOL
demetrius
01-17-2006, 01:51 AM
excellant song to go along, that goofy bastard blends in well
Thanks. I'll never be able to get a hard-on ever again.
chaparro
01-17-2006, 05:28 AM
hahahaha damm Diva,,, only you hahaha
OMG:puke: :puke: :puke: Only problem is Bush is so stupid he would have to be a blonde.
Darkwolf
01-18-2006, 03:57 AM
Pull our people out and drop the bomb.
Darkwolf
01-18-2006, 04:13 AM
That's what sucks. You want to keep the country safe, but not infringe on our freedoms. Where to draw the line.
Darkwolf
01-18-2006, 04:20 AM
Take our guns, take our free speech here comes the one world goverment
Darkwolf
01-18-2006, 04:22 AM
two bagger, she has a nice body. LOL
Sanitarium
01-18-2006, 04:47 AM
Pull our people out and drop the bomb.
i agree - just be done with the whole thing...
phantasmal_fiend
01-18-2006, 05:11 AM
lol ihc is the international orginisation for retards (it really is) do you think their initials are any coincidence.
Brozal
01-20-2006, 02:29 AM
Nick Griffin is a brainless fasciste, and a stupid guy also
Take our guns, take our free speech here comes the one world goverment
I can assure you they won't take them from me as long as I'm alive. Maybe after I'm dead they can come after them, but as a ghost I'm gonna piss in their coffee every morning. And for the women, I'll be the one that always makes sure there is a new hair out of place in your hairdo. I'll sprinkle some sand in the KY and I'll goose their proctalogist just as soon as he gets the camera in.
Magna316
01-20-2006, 05:17 AM
I was always taught that if walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck - THEN IT IS A DUCK! But today if you say it is a duck some treehugging pussy from PETA calls you a bastard and tells you it is a being of nature or some shit like that and the next thing ya know they are demonstrating in front yard. I will tell you this - Now if you get into a bar brawl and describe someone by their race WHAM instant hate crime. - This country is real bad shape. We are going to get ass raped before too long.
WHITE DEVIL
01-20-2006, 04:29 PM
As I replied in another thread:
"At this rate, we are going to be the largest nation of mutes (in public) ever known to exist."
Pull our people out and drop the bomb.
to right blow all the fuckers up
http://www.geestyle.de/index.php?modul=clipsdetails&ID=27&
http://www.flurl.com/uploaded/family_guy_osama_bin_laden_4295.html
thorysus
01-21-2006, 05:06 AM
got nothin from that link
thorysus
01-21-2006, 05:11 AM
Fuckin no shit aint that the truth! Some people in flordias told me in thier district (whick ironicly was democrat) they had so much road construction leading all over the place at the polls ya couldnt even get in to vote! bush is a cocksucker!
thorysus
01-21-2006, 05:15 AM
Yeah i think his here is the guy we used to send all the evil clown greetings to and fuck with him and mail all sorts of shit just for fun.lol.the goos ol days! allt he info is in back threads if ya feel like lookin it up lmao!
thorysus
01-21-2006, 05:21 AM
Yes definatly our freedom of speech is in serious jeopardy! We should all tell the politician that threaten this and alo ur right to fuck off and die, then tattoo it on thier forhead so every morning they will remeber our feelings!!!!!!
thorysus
01-21-2006, 05:51 AM
I think i actually saw him stricking some of them poses in his debates and public speeches!
thorysus
01-21-2006, 05:54 AM
The misuse and abuse of the patroit actas well as the fact the politicians didnt even read it before sighning it is a great example or why we should revolt and restore this country back to what it once was and what it once stood for!
dildevdes
01-21-2006, 11:32 AM
realize this above all that is going on today in the world is the fact that our own government has concentration camps set up for us!!!!!!! FEMA is set up to take over the country with marshall law and infringe on all of our rights.
look up rex 84 or american concentration camps.
fight to the end!!!
revidffum
01-21-2006, 12:02 PM
The misuse and abuse of the patroit actas well as the fact the politicians didnt even read it before sighning it is a great example or why we should revolt and restore this country back to what it once was and what it once stood for!
ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTLY...at least there has been SOME opposition to the laws themselves...the Senate or the House has extended it...but is looking at it to see if it is to intrusive...which it is of course. Lets face it, some damage has already been done...damage that WILL NEVER get fixed. Lets not forget...the things that are going on as we speak...the Google thing, the wire tapping...all of it goes back to this document. All they need to do is scream terror, and they can do what they want without being questioned.
theyrealize this above all that is going on today in the world is the fact that our own government has concentration camps set up for us!!!!!!! FEMA is set up to take over the country with marshall law and infringe on all of our rights.
look up rex 84 or american concentration camps
This little clusterfuck of stupidity is A WHOLE NOTHER STORY...you should start a thread...it should be known about the crap these fucksticks pull...start one dildevdes...you know where to get the info!!
dildevdes
01-21-2006, 03:19 PM
Here is a link to one of many sites but this is the start.....
I will find and post the other fucked up shit the government has in store for us ...the ones they are supposed to be protecting...
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/camps.html
dildevdes
01-21-2006, 03:28 PM
This link might help explain why FEMA truly is inefficient in their ability to handle national disasters.....Mainly....because it is not their main objective.
tells geographic locations of concentration camps and directives that can be enacted by prez.
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm
dildevdes
01-21-2006, 03:32 PM
No matter what we do .....right or wrong....the middle east will not like our operations. I agree we are in the right area to flush out these cowards and unfortunately sometimes casualties to the civilian population occur.
revidffum
01-21-2006, 04:25 PM
NOW THATS A FUCKED UP!!!! I thank you for that link...I knew it was bad, but this shed some new info I didn't previously know. I have a friend that is going to have a fucking stroke when I show him that artical.
GOOD JOB DUDE!!
Stranger
01-21-2006, 07:42 PM
www.americandaily.com/article/11255
Cyanotic
01-22-2006, 02:08 PM
:hurl: I love my country but fear my government.:hurl: It's time to take back OUR government that is for the PEOPLE and BY the PEOPLE. Time for a Boston tea party, only this time I say we throw the politicians in the water and hold them down till they drown.
Sanitarium
01-22-2006, 10:48 PM
Nice link- thanks for posting it....
Link works fine for me. Like Family Guy. Here is a clip a cant get enough of.
http://media.putfile.com/familyguypuke65
thorysus
01-23-2006, 02:34 PM
They both open opened for me that time. Fuckin great shit there. i love the family guy. The puke was coll. the stand up comedy of osama just fuckin rocked,lmao. he had a note from his doctor. lol.
thorysus
01-23-2006, 03:06 PM
Very intresting and informative. Thanks for the link i found it educational.
thorysus
01-23-2006, 03:15 PM
Thanks again. This page also has the name of a page where you can sighn a petiton to save our free speech if you believe in the cause, then sign.
thorysus
01-23-2006, 03:27 PM
Yes please do. The only protecting the goverment does for us is to protect us from that which they do not want us to know.
chaparro
01-24-2006, 08:26 PM
i know this is old but we should never forget 9/11 ,,,see for yourselfves this is something that has never been answered,,,
the famous flash video
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/pentagon.swf
sites of 911 pics and info of what really happen ?
http://www.thepowerhour.com/911_articles.htm
http://www.911inplanesite.com/911synopsis.html
http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm
demetrius
01-24-2006, 08:40 PM
hey thanx for the post of 911 seen some new articals and pic's. i allway thought something was fishy with the pentagon strike.
May all who suffered and gave there live's rest in peace for you will never be forgotten. You will live in our hearts forever.(in memory of 911)
thorysus
01-25-2006, 01:27 AM
some (alot) of this is new to me i will search more later when i have time. thanks bro. p.s. love your avatar!
dildevdes
01-25-2006, 12:14 PM
Thanks for those links
We should never forget those victims of 911 and continue the search for truth and spread it as we find it.
I will keep an eye out and send links when i find them.
dildevdes
01-25-2006, 12:43 PM
here are some links that shed some more perspective on things...ultimately I love my country and will defend it AGAINST ANYONE that tears at it. So the war has begun......see what you think...
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/january2006/190106Edmonds.htm
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/january2006/230106doesnotexist.htm
http://www.augustreview.com/
http://www.pushhamburger.com/
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=75&contentid=2381
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?ChannelID=101
:shoot:
chaparro
01-27-2006, 12:48 AM
ya bro theres no doubt that the thing that crashed into the pentagon was not a plane
Redneck
01-27-2006, 03:25 AM
I can appreciate questions and any time evidence doesn't fit neatly.
But, ya know, a lot of people think wearing a tinfoil hat keeps the alien brain control rays out of your head, there's UFOs and Bigfoots and Elvis is still alive and the moon landings never happened. What people think it not compelling evidence, ever.
With a politically charged thing like 9/11 and so much anti-Americanism in the world, it's hard to imagine that this charge of fakery doesn't have motives that would cause the maker to have faked that claim itself.
Timing the photos would have been an easy way to make it appear that no plane hit. After some cleanup, it would look that way if dishonestly captioned. The mystery hole is hardly a mystery, looks like a jet engine could do that, don't you think?
And the claim that a terrorist wasn't a good pilot? How valid can that be? He was a fucking terrorist, they lie for a fucking living! Subterfuge is all they do! Taking their word for anything, or trusting the impression they cast to....some guy....is hardly what I'd call convincing evidence.
There are plenty of military people who were there, their story differs one hell of a lot from that flash flick. You'll notice they are not in it. Looks one sided as fuck to me and fabricated, it damned sure isn't a complete view of what happened.
I also notice they claim behavior control was used, successfully somehow. How do you get hundreds of witnesses to all agree on a "lie" without a brain control ray? Look at this from the other side a second. If that movie is true, then the evil gubmint done got the alien brain control ray on us!
You just can't silence that many witnesses, hell, the leftists who saw such a thing would be screaming on TV. Where are they?
That movie's bullshit. Reminds me of Bowling for Columbine, 11,000 dead by guns (2 million saved by guns, complete story NOT FUCKING TOLD!)
And hey, riddle me this...
If Flight 77 didn't hit the Pentagon, where did it go?
The movie said you can't hide plane wreckage, but if you think about it, it claims that's exactly what happened, and that, without a shred of evidence whatsoever.
"Don't believe their plane wreck story, with smoking bulding and fire departments putting out the blaze and a body count, believe our flash show that has evidence consisting of massive witness control and no plane wreckage at all accounting for the claims we base our accusations upon."
That's my caption to that flick.
thorysus
01-27-2006, 04:12 AM
I'll be honest i didnt read the links but i saved them to read later when i have the time. Thanks for keeping up and wiether i agree or not thanks for postin so things to keep my mind open. I'll try to get back to ya when i read them.
Sanitarium
01-27-2006, 05:00 AM
I bookmarked them as well, it's too late tonite for me to read them & understand it. But will check it out for sure......
dildevdes
01-27-2006, 12:25 PM
No problem I understand, I just want to put it out there for everyone to have some insight to things that very well could be true.....I dont mean to get so heated, it just hurts to think our government is being so shady and I truly love my country.
thorysus
01-27-2006, 04:10 PM
Damn thats some disturbing news. While i have a hard believing bush purposely set up and staged 911 (thats much even for this dickhead) i dont rule out that he knew about it and starting planning his own agenda before it happened. This is just the type of low life ass hole that he is. As far as a global economy, i have split views of this. If its made by a corupt system this will also be corrupt For the founding laws and rules in which its established will alway for such things. Thats fucked up. But if its created fairly and justfully i think it can be a good thing eliminating suck things as sweet shops and unfair wages through time. Maybe even establish in time a steady econmy and avoid recesssions and depresions IF its created fair for all and not the greedy asses of the world. For the people by the people basicly. Personaly i think this country and all world superpowers need a reality check from the people to keep them (the worlds superpowers) under control and keep the peoples best intrest in mind. If we keep going like this world war 111 will be a far different war that the other 2. It will not be (or just be) against communisim but also against the superpowers total and complete direguard topeople and their rights. It will be a fight for globalas well as local freedom for the people.
dildevdes
01-27-2006, 07:02 PM
Damn thats some disturbing news. While i have a hard believing bush purposely set up and staged 911 (thats much even for this dickhead) i dont rule out that he knew about it and starting planning his own agenda before it happened. This is just the type of low life ass hole that he is. As far as a global economy, i have split views of this. If its made by a corupt system this will also be corrupt For the founding laws and rules in which its established will alway for such things. Thats fucked up. But if its created fairly and justfully i think it can be a good thing eliminating suck things as sweet shops and unfair wages through time. Maybe even establish in time a steady econmy and avoid recesssions and depresions IF its created fair for all and not the greedy asses of the world. For the people by the people basicly. Personaly i think this country and all world superpowers need a reality check from the people to keep them (the worlds superpowers) under control and keep the peoples best intrest in mind. If we keep going like this world war 111 will be a far different war that the other 2. It will not be (or just be) against communisim but also against the superpowers total and complete direguard topeople and their rights. It will be a fight for globalas well as local freedom for the people.
I would have to agree that GW might not have planned it but I feel he might have turned away from it to plan his own agenda for what he wanted to do in the middle east.
Strip n Maul!
01-28-2006, 03:54 AM
1st off let me say that ANY interest in the political process that governs our country, much less interest in Geopolitic is GREAT. I WISH we could have more interest/input in the process that runs our country.
I have a friend that is a PHD in Political Science (at a LARGE University) that believes in a LOT of alternative/conspiracy angles on history n current events. He has DELUGED me with articles like your links for over a DECADE.
Over time I think you will see that a LOT of what was contained in these links is somewhat OFFBASE to be kind.
I've been an active opponent to GWB for YEARS, and in TEXAS that isn't easy. That been said let me give you a key to understanding the man, since I find myself in the unusual position of defending him on these link issues.
When you watch GWB speak on "policies and positions" that are repulblican party platform standards, you'll see a COMPLETELY different person. WHY, because he's not speaking from the heart or on things he REALLY believes in.
You'll see a man that stumbles over words...seems contrite n often bitter at those with opposing viewpoits and the same or WORSE with reporters asking questions that don't follow his logic/policies.
NOW look at the man when dealing with LOSS of human life, in this instance let's take after 911. After the interuption of the elementary school book reading, when he was told of the attacks and subsequent 1st TV appearance.
Here he's clear of voice, looking staight in to the camera addressing the people. You "see" RESOLVE when telling of the "ONGOING" (at that moment it was) situation. Later (a few days) when being asked about the mood of the country and how he can function in the face of such an overwhelming catastrophe, you see him almost come to tears and his answer is heartfelt and voice wavering (most Americans remember this image/moment) "It's a TOUGH job (almost broke right here). But it's one the American people elected me to do, and ( gaining strength and jaw starting to set) I'm NOT going to let them down. We're going to FIND these people and bring them to justice. That I can PROMISE you. Now I've got to go to N.Y. guys (press) but I'll speak to you again soon don't worry."
Then when standing on a pile of rubble that once represented the pinnacle of power in the NYC skyline. He started taking questions and his voice was low and he seemed almost crushed/humbled when speaking. Then some workers n firemen n policeman n folks in General started yelling we can't hear you, and "We BELIEVE in you "George" (normally it's Mr. President), you can do it!" THEN you see him ask for an electronic megaphone from the secret service present. He jaw starts to "set" again and instead of continuing from midway up the ruble, he steps to the top of the rubble partially stumbling in his akward climb to the top,and says "Can you hear me now?" A large # of people give a LOUD n clear YES! "Good, and I want you to know that I HEAR YOU! And pretty soon the people that are responsible for this will hear from US!"
THAT is WHO GWB "is". I'm not FOR him policy wise but I "get" him. I've seen him in THOSE type of situations (where he believes or FEELS in what he saying) well over 50 times here in Texas n Nationally, and 3 of those were in person. THAT man (recovered alcholic/recreational drug user/Christian) would NEVER KNOWINGLY LET 911 HAPPEN. I know of NO other way to say it. Those that say he would, to further his OWN policies/agenda are BEYOND his bitterest ENEMIES and hold NO positions of prominence or respect or of power. They are they WORST of the "conspiracy theorist". Those that attack from behind the anonymous "veil" of the internet. THOSE that put together that PHONY as FUCK Pentagon internet video (Plane crashes make messes") that SMEAR the memory of survivors who lost loved ones on Flight 77 as if it disappeared off the face of the earth and are being "held" by the goverment somewhere (because the Gov. was "in" on it or "letting" it happento FURTHER World Order) or kidnapped by ALIENS and the goverment is hiding it!
I've followed John McCain's career for DECADES, and I've met him twice. He's a man of HONOR that I respect and works with Repulicans n Democrats. When asked of what he thought of GWB he said once, "I don't always agree with him, in fact he REALLY pisses me off sometimes!" "However I KNOW him to be a Patriot above ALL and and I'm CONFIDENT he will defend American citizens with everything at his disposal,"
I voted for AL GORE last time. I believe our economy would be better off if he had won, with NO defecits and fairer tax reform. HOWEVER Gore would NOT have gone to WAR with Afghanistan, he would have endorsed MEANINGLESS sanctions, and the JIHADIST would have seen us as weak and FOLKS we would've have seen MORE attacks ON U.S. soil by NOW I PROMISE you THAT.
The WHOLE WORLD'S Intelligence services said Saddam had WMD's! EVERY NATION in the "G8" BELIEVED he had them. RUSSIA n France (the FUCKS) had been signing LUCRATIVE business deals with him DESPITE endorsing the SANCTIONS against Iraq. And YES now we know after we went in he might've shipped them off to Syria (LOTS of conspiracy boys on that one!) or he SIMPLY didn't have them anymore.
BUT the point is he was ACTIVELY SETTING UP EFFORTS to start up said programs and restart his Nuclear ambitions. This we know from interogating the infamous "Deck of Cards"..... Yes actual HUMAN BEINGS saying that....NOT ...."SOURCES" or "AYNONMOUS adminstration figures" that are ALWAYS the source of MOST of the EXTREME conspiracy theorist. You'll see liberal FAR left folks on "The Factor w/Bill O'Reilly" that will attack GWB in various ways. BUT they will NEVER advance the kinds of attacks that've been mentioned above and in the links here. BECAUSE even THEY, his most BITTER elected enemies KNOW he wouldn't do THAT. And there's NOT ONE FUCKING SHREAD of EVIDENCE to say he DID. You think TED KENNEDY wouldn't release such evidence if it existed! BILLIONARE George Sorros would pay MILLIONS for that evidence.
Yes we could've connected the "dots" better..THAT is too true.....and we could have paid more attention to some intelligence concerning Mohammed Atta and some of his boys..but that's just IT....."MISTAKES" were made..and they were just that MISTAKES..not omissions of action that caused over 3000 Americans to lose their lives and over a TRILLION dollars worth of damage to the U.S. economy.
I'm NO FAN of George Bush, I VOTED for Al Gore ( and FOR John McCain in the Rep. Primaries) but I'm GLAD he was our President after 911...I'm GALD "WE" went and took out the Taliban..I'm GLAD Saddam is GONE.....THINK what Iran would be doing under GORE and what the WORLD would be like under Gore....
I BELIVE that GWB and good senators and congressmen (there are some) as well as COLIN POWELL (For who I have IMMENSE respect for as well) KNEW it's what we needed to do. It was/and IS going to be COSTLY both in lives and dollars. But it was the RIGHT thing to do HOWEVER we GOT there. The MAJORITY of Americans believe that. The USA is SAFER because of it. YOU KNOW THAT. Think we woulda had no more attacks under Gore...PLEASE... like him or NOT GWB made the HARD choices, NOT the politically correct ones. YES he made mistakes, YES we had an enormous intelligence failure as did all western intelligence agencies, including Israels vaunted Mossad. But GWB did NOT WILLINGLY let 911 happen by omission of action or by ANY other means.
I'm a critic of GWB, I didn't vote for him, I'm a PROUD Military Vet. and I felt compelled to write the above out of a deep respect and LOVE of my country. Don't belive this of GWB. I don't. Rick Marcinko (aslo no friend of GWB) doesn't belive such things of him. Rick Marcinko author of the "Rogue Warrior" series and 30 yr SEAL Team Commander, who has led more black OPS and KNOWS more of counterterrorism than almost ANY other U.S.citizen.
Consider the above arguments fellow Strangelanders, and don't follow the convoluted logic of the most EXTREME conspiracy theorist. EVEN hardline conspiracy theorist who have legit credentials don't go THAT far.
I FEEL VERY strongly after reading those charges in those links, so strongly that a "hunt n peck" typer would write the longest "responses/letter I've ever written (took me a LONG FUCKING time to get it done!). But I don't want ya'll believing THAT of our country/goverment. If I even gave one person cause to rethink it was worth the effort.
AGAIN I respect anyone for being INVOLVED in the process or having an opinion. I WISH more did, it's what makes our country the greatest country ever created under the eyes of God.
thorysus
01-28-2006, 05:11 AM
Damn strip maul good post. I hope to hell you are right (and i firmly believe you believe you are and that rocks) I just dont trust GWB, prob never will and so i tend to keep in my mind his acting or abilty to forget and play people. But i tell ya what you bring up some god damn good points!!! Good enough for me to sit back and seriously ponder, and this will take place for more than right now, as always i must research and make my own choice and decision, but kudios to you for making me do that!! Respect points earned!!!
dildevdes
01-30-2006, 02:17 PM
Strip- I respect ur post but in all conspiracies is truth....finding it is the key.
I voted for GW cuz I like his take no shit attitude.
However, do you think he would have gotten reelected had he said to the public...You know we knew this was possibly going to happen and we could have stopped it before it did.--I dont think he would have been able to run again. To which would have led to(which I agree) the Al Gore area of weaknesss.
Ultimately, I am very patriotic and will defend my coountry again and again but I will never trust the government!!!!
Strip n Maul!
01-30-2006, 04:20 PM
He didn't HAVE to say it...all the LEAKS from the 911 commission CONFIRMED that "it" could have been prevented....thus the term was born.."Connect the dots"...it was EVERYWHERE..CNN/FOX/ABC....Ted Coppel frigging made it a week long crusade...... GWB was re-elected because of the religous right and their organization movement...without THAT..it was sooo close that we woulda "suffered Kerry".... So in "effect" he didn't have to tell everyone..it was out "there"..saturation covered in the ONLY way the liberal media can do....
You bring up a good point...MOST people voted for Bush (that weren't Rich or Big Business) because and I AGREE...(his ASS kicking approach..i.e..."no shit attitude")......he was walking around Crawford ranch in Boots n cowboyhat and Turbo Diesel 4x4 F-250 saying we wanted Bin Ladin "DEAD or ALIVE"...Terrorist FEAR that Image and it's NOT an accident he portrays THAT image..and TEXAS plays into that......
When I was in Korea and people found out I was from Texas...much less DALLAS.....they wanted to know how many GUNS I have (a LOT)..n how many Horses I had (none) and what my RANCH was like...NO SHIT!! Now granted this was Koreans..but that's how the world see's TEXAS....
And I KNOW there's some TRUTH in SOME conspiracy theories.... BUT the fact he KNEW and by ommission of action to advance his world order agenda LET it FUCKING happen..I call BULLFUCKINGSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let THAT extreme consipracy theorist take his anti Bush agenda elsewhere..I'm OUT on that one Bro!!!
Strip n Maul!
02-02-2006, 09:12 AM
Here’s the way it looks folks…. Iran is now CLAIMING ….“America” n the British are setting off bombs in their Southern Cities…and are now Threatening to use their Shahab-3 missiles against Israel n U.S.troops in the region. They say if they are referred to the Security council (now a virtual CERTANTITY) they will “Attempt” to blockade the strait of Hormuz (which will drive Gas prices thru the ROOF, over $6 a gallon by some estimates)…the Missile their working on Shahab 5 will be able to hit the East Coast of the U.S. They are going to Fund HAMMAS so they won’t have to renounce their “Destruction of Israel” form their “CHARTER” President Ahmadinejad of IRAN has STATED his “INTENTION” to spread the weapons of “Fire” (read NUKES) through “proxies” (Read Hammas n Hezbulloah) Oh by the way in “laymans” terms that’s State sponsored NUCLEAR TERRORISM!) KNOCK FUCKING KNOCK, “Madman trying to bring on Armageddon CALLING!! Here’s a couple of links going over some of the events ….
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-boot25jan25,0,3670344.column?coll=la-util-opinion-commentary
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/02/02/iran.wrap/index.html
President Ahmadinejad is an Islamic Jihadist……UNLIKE Iraq..the Iranian people are HIGHLY educated/have access to the internet and SOMEDAY might overthrow the reigning religious Mullahs…….. THAT won’t come soon enough SADLY…
WE are going to WAR with Iran…BEFORE they hit Israel or US… WARNING…Don’t be FUCKING “Soft”!! President Ahmadinejad will NOT hesitate to murder our boys over there or God forbid Hundreds of thousands Women and CHILDREN on the East Coast under a Nuclear Mushroom cloud! If He NUKES Israel, THEY will respond with THEIR Nuclear Missiles…THE conflict will escalate to the point GAS will be over100.00 a barrel….and you’ll have a LOT of “GLASS” (sand after being NUKED) in the middle east! So don’t FUCKING get critical WHEN we HIT IRAN FOLKS!!!!!! This isn’t Bin Laden…It’s NOT Saddam…This is a RICH State that has the MEANS to do what the whole WORLD fears most!!! It’s not diplomatic “brinksmanship”, Ahmadinejad will PULL the trigger!! He’s told the world he wants to wipe Israel “Off the Map”.. President Ahmadinejad has gone on record STATING we are in the “end of days” and he wants to bring the “Shining one” to PUNISH the Infidel..HOLY FUCK!!! The WORLD will take this guy down….the U.S. n Israel will do the Heavy Military “lifting”….. Here “it” comes folks…DO NOT Mistake THIS for anything that’s gone before!! Don’t go Cindy Sheehan on us!!! Your country will need Patriots to sustain the “effort”! JIHADIST don’t “waver”, only those comfortable living in the greatest country EVER created under the eyes of GOD do THAT!!!
joemichaels1982
02-02-2006, 08:05 PM
now if that doesn't make u think I don't know what will...
:shoot: :shoot:
:evil:
revidffum
02-02-2006, 08:14 PM
Israel will send in the Mossad and start "disposing" of leaders before they let shit fly. They don't like Bush much...they love the U.S.A. but will not hesitate ONE NANO-SECOND to preserve there lives. Bush got all shitty with them when they went rolling into the Palistinian terrotories a few years ago, and they told us flat out...if we can defend against terror, so can they. I know shit is going to be hitting the fan REAL soon...but to be honest...I'm more worried about Bush throwing the first nuke than anyone else. I get the impression, with all of his right wing religous bullshit...he thinks he's the lamb of God, or some shit. Like HE ALONE will bring rightousness to the world. But Iran is my SECOND choice for the first strike.
Sanitarium
02-02-2006, 08:26 PM
Strip n Maul--- that post made the hair on my neck stand up--- Altho it's my understanding Iran like N. Korea have nukes, but the missiles are out of date and don't have suffcient range to reach the US. That info came from a friend of mine who spent his 20 in The Marines, including 5 yrs of Pentagon Service.
Turbonegro
02-02-2006, 08:49 PM
Iran is out of it's friggin' mind! It's not just America and it's usual cooperating governments that are pissed about this nuke buisness. EVERYONE is pissed. I have yet to see one country come out in thier support. These dudes are completely out of touch with reality if they think they can just do as they damn well please or that America is too busy with two war fronts to get involved. They can't fight off the armies of every country but I believe these dudes could very well be so delusional that they would attempt it. I just wonder how many of these outraged governments are gonna commit troops to kicking these guys in the nutts? :hangloose .
Turbonegro
02-02-2006, 09:06 PM
dude that was a crazy article. At first it's hard to imagine that such a thing could be true but then you think about our camp in Cuba and it's not such a far fetched idea. Funny enough is what better place to do it other than right under our noses. I just don't know what happened to the ideals of what it is to be a American in America. I mean in my 30 years it seems like the government has always been untrustworthy but has it always been this way. I'm beging to think it has. I for one have never been more afraid of my own country in all my life. Survallience on citizens now camps already in place just in case. My question is in case of what?:hangloose
phantasmal_fiend
02-02-2006, 09:21 PM
USA is safe from nukes, they have enough protection to make sure that that does not happen! Iran just wants to nuke the jews and Israel they have been duking it out for ages it's better that carrying on for centuries, its their choice if they want to raise oil prices, so far the war on terror has cost USA $300 billion! can USA afford another war? why not let them nuke israel and then usa can nuke them (i think only china has intercontinental nuclear missiles (maybey russian and usa) but USA has subs everywhere so they don't need them and as soon as iran launches, usa launches back two targets nuked for the price of one, i have heard some of you wanting to Quote "drop a big bomb on them" my thoughts on the matter is that well if USA can have nukes why not everyone else. sorry i just like nukes (damn there is going to be some unhappy people when they read this)
Sanitarium
02-02-2006, 09:38 PM
Phantasmal- Yes China does have ICBM's .. that a whole 'nother can of worms there....
phantasmal_fiend
02-02-2006, 10:01 PM
what i am trying to say is that iran does not so their targets will be limited
Sanitarium
02-02-2006, 10:10 PM
Yes please do. The only protecting the goverment does for us is to protect us from that which they do not want us to know.
You got that right brotha!!
revidffum
02-02-2006, 11:19 PM
Come on guy's...you don't REALLY THINK that all of those "traffic cameras" they put up at EVERY intersection, are really for traffic!! What about all of those big red and white towers...the ones with the big sattalite dishes and panoramic cameras on them are for TV and radio, or cell phones.You don't think all the new gps and onstar shit is REALLY for saftey, do you? They have been putting shit into place slowly but surely for fuckin' years! THINK ABOUT IT, AND LOOK AROUND AT SOME OF THE NEW SHIT YOU SEE BEING INSTALLED!!!
Redneck
02-03-2006, 01:07 AM
Maul, excellent post. You are a Patriot.
Iran does not need ICBM capability to use their nuclear weapons, they are in league with terrorists and have worked with them before. It seems abundantly clear that Iran is eager to use nuclear weapons on western nations, and to enforce islam.
The genocidal remarks their leader has made should alarm any sane person.
This all, I think, clearly shows that fundamentalist islam is a worldwide threat, and companioning that is a remarkably diseased culture supporting this deranged militancy. Much of what angers these people is that other nations have succeed and their failings are being heatedly blamed upon the successes of others. They refuse to critically evaluate their culture and idiotic customs like keeping half the population down via caveman level sexism.
An old axiom in social science is: what a culture does internally, it will eventually do externally.
Iran hangs people for homosexuality, they are internally barbaric and violent, despite that they do have an vibrant educated sector. They will soon export exactly what they cultivate domestically, and I, for the record, support strong and thorough military action against Iran before they commit an atrocity.
Sanitarium
02-03-2006, 01:26 AM
Iran does not need ICBM capability to use their nuclear weapons, they are in league with terrorists and have worked with them before. It seems abundantly clear that Iran is eager to use nuclear weapons on western nations, and to enforce islam.
Damn good point Redneck... I had failed to think of that. Imagine a suitcase full of radioactive matter opened up in a subway or sports arena. Think of how many people ride the subway or go to a football game. That in and of itself is enough to concern even the most bleeding heart of liberals that something needs to be done!
wtf, someone get a hold of chuck norris, and jack bauer!
thorysus
02-03-2006, 04:13 PM
Again i was unable to open the links so i am really talking blindly. I have a hard time buyimg into this whole barbaricc thing. people have been called this for centurys and often it has been proven wrong. Look at the naive americans, kelts, etc.. When ever one nation (weather its enland, rome, us, etc..) want to justify thier actions they offen pack fear into the people they represent and use such terms as barbarians, uneducated and all sorts of other socially unexptable terms to gain the support of people. This is part of the oldest military pln in the world, divide and conquor. If the people dont or wont support them in the way they want they will use propaganda and any other ways neccary to help sway things in thier favor. Please before anyone jumps on any band wagon and starts to support a fullscale nuclear war please be sure its true and just and not just what they want you to believe. After all they will use use any means neccary from the media to mailings and any brainwashing techniques they can.
digger
02-03-2006, 05:12 PM
Fuck Maul great post, redneck right on response, somethin has to be done. I am hopeful that a nuculear holocost can be avoided. As far as Israel is concerned they are some bad mother fuckers. Although they don't have the numbers of peeps as Iran, still some bad ombre's. I beleive that there are 3 wild cards in this matter. China, N. Korea & USSR. I would think the USSR would be least likely to get involved but N. Korea and China, who knows. Once the doors open watch the fuck out.
Me thinks it's time to add to the amunition and supplies, could be a long dry spell.
joemichaels1982
02-03-2006, 09:45 PM
damn strip u really love u'r politics
thorysus
02-04-2006, 02:29 AM
Yes he does and stays current with he current events. Agree with him or not ya gotta repect him.
thorysus
02-04-2006, 02:40 AM
but N. Korea and China, who knows. Once the doors open watch the fuck out.
Me thinks it's time to add to the amunition and supplies, could be a long dry spell.
You just hit on one of my worst fears, World war III against these nations. Just N. Korea and china alone much less whoever would join them. If that does happen hopefully the world will rest in peice for a long time after that because it will definatly be needed.
Sanitarium
02-04-2006, 02:44 AM
Strip n Maul-
I've read alot of your posts and have to say by far you have the best posts in this room.
Always informative
Always Accurate
Sounds like a commercial for CNN.... lol
Cyanotic
02-04-2006, 03:09 AM
Should have taken those Iranian ragheads out when they grabbed the hostages. Kill em all, let Allah sort em out. There can't be that many virgins in heaven.
Strip n Maul!
02-04-2006, 05:23 PM
:duel: 1st off "Redneck"..DAMN good response...we're on the same "Page"......
Cyanotic.... SHOWS you know of some of their FUCKED up ideolgy.."Virgins in Heaven..72 to exact I think!" N I Agree
Thorysus.. Worry NOT..they are the ones that will go Nuclear 1st....(and we (the world)...will NOT let them get THAT far!).......it will NEVER be us!! (TRUST me)......the world economy...and you have to have 3..Sec. of Defense/ Sec. of State (or head of NSC) AND the president to do so....WILL totally prevent THAT worst case scenario!
Digger…. USSR has HUGE contracts w/Iran..Thus the offer to enrich Uranium on their soil…EVEN That’s being refused!...China is a “Dripping pussy” of business contracts and SENSITIVITY!!! FUCK’em….. North KOREA gave them Missile technology for HARD CASH!!!
DREX- we NEED Jack Baur..his name if Rick “Dick” Marcinko!!!...AUTHOR of the “Rogue Warrior” series..READ it n THANK me FOLKS!!!
Phantasmal Fiend- Their range is NOT limited (Shahab 3 can reach ANYWHERE in the REGION)………Shahab 5 CAN FUCKING hit the East Coast of U.S….( I KNOW they will NOT be ALLOWED to bring them “on line!”)
A general “heads up” folks….Carl Sagan said it would only take 12-14 Nuclear attacks to bring on NUCLEAR winter!....KNOW this…..watch “Day after Tomorrow” and YES it’s from something else “Global Warming”..but it SHOWS what the ONSET of ICE looks like!! NOT trying to scare but the worlds LEADING scientist r talking about this!
WHAT’S “going” to happen…..WE SHALL take out IRAN and they will be a SUPER DEMOCRACY in the middle east and 50 Yrs from now we shall win the WAR on ISLAMIC JIHADIST!!!!!
Redneck
02-04-2006, 07:29 PM
WHAT’S “going” to happen…..WE SHALL take out IRAN and they will be a SUPER DEMOCRACY in the middle east and 50 Yrs from now we shall win the WAR on ISLAMIC JIHADIST!!!!!
The war we are in is not WWIII, it is the war between jihadism and the ideals of Freedom and democracy. The odds favor us for several reasons. Democracy outperforms theocracy, monarchy, and dictatorship, which is all the entire arabic middle east has (not to mention most of Africa). While they blame their lack of economic and global cultural success on successful western nations for now, in 50 years, as Maul correctly says, after they are forceably converted to our higher ideals of Freedom and an open free market economy, and resultant higher living standards become the status quo of the new era in arabia, we will indeed be then deemed as heroes for having rescued arabia from defeat-inspired/defeat-caused radical jihadism. Simply put, happy people don't go on suicidal bombing missions or want to nuke other nations.
China, while certainly on the march against US interests, is not a foe we need worry about in any direct way. Yes, they stole our Naval Aegis system, however, we have already gone not one but two generations beyond that. China, if it could accelerate military growth to match our pace (and it can't) still could not, in their wildest dreams, catch up with American warfighting capability to the point of being one full generation below us. The fact that they keep an enormous infantry, as massive cost, shows they fear us invading, not the other way around. They are strictly a regional military power.
2/3 of the Chinese population is rural subsistance farmers, only 1/3 of the country has any modernity at all. Thus, the more China does modernize, the larger the gap will become with the majority ultra-poor throngs outside the major cities. They will have internal problems derived of the world's largest economic imbalance a single nation ever endured. They will be lucky to stay a single nation, much less a threat to American pre-eminance in the globe.
The big thing I think we all, every one of us, should do to help bring about the end of militant theocracy, to end national greed like what China is doing, to end monarchy, tyranny, and the evils of our most primitive cultures, like jihadism, is to advance and support modern ideals of Freedom. Freedom of the press, speech, religion, staunchly protected individual rights, free market capitalism under rule of fair law, decent standards of living for all, elevation of women's right globally....and then....after the entire world has a decent standard of living, and no one ethnicity or nation is so angry and upset they resort to violence, then we will have what I would call a civilized world.
You are fucking god damned right I am an American.
I will fight, kill, and die for these ideals, anywhere in the world. Freedom is Freedom. I love it more than life.
Our ideas are better. It is right for us to use military force to impose these ideals. This is how we can end the hate.
I support our troops, oh yeah, I damned sure do.
P.S. Now it is more clear why I hate anti-American pieces of shit.
Magna316
02-05-2006, 07:42 AM
Maul - Bush does not seem to quite the idiot now does he? Thor will probally flame me for this - If a person will study history they will see that who ever controlls Baghdad controls the Middle East. When I was there the Baghdad International Airport was up and running. Christ they even had DHL making dily stops. My point is Maul is right, any idiot reading the paper should get chills about how this is heating up, kind of reminds me of late 2002 and early 2003. And my second pont is that it is easier to fly maybe 4 hours from Baghdad to Tehran than from Montanna to Tehran. As for me I have said it before, we should kick ass so bad that no one else wants any.
thorysus
02-05-2006, 04:01 PM
Magna- lose your ego, i hardley wiat for you to come around so i may flame. Do some research on these boards and you will see i hardly ever flame.
Redneck, I agree and like what you mostly say. The parts i disagree with i dont disagree that theyre happening, i disagree that they should not happen that way. I dont beilieve we should forcably convert anyone to our ideas weither we believe them to be true or not. To force someone to believe our beliefs is no different than the communist forcing someone to believe thiers. Its just wrong. To force someone into something you Are taking away a very big and impotant freedom, that of free choice. I also support the right and ideas of freedom and would like to see world wide stability and a decent standard of living for all. But i believe that to force this on others is wrong. They may believe that communism is right and the world would be better like that, but that dont mean that i want to be communist. Its the same thing just the flip side of the coin. The term civilized scares me because throughout history more horrific and unjust actions have been done to poeple and their countries, thier heritage. etc... under that term than probley any other.
While im all about defending our country and our peoples freedoms, i believe to force, manipulate or to wage war on others to install our beliefs is wrong. Once we take away thier choice and force it on them, its no longer freedom.
True freedom involves freedom of choice.
Strip n Maul!
02-06-2006, 02:20 AM
Thanx guys!! I put in a lot of time, keepin an eye on things....notice that lil SHIT that tried to call me out didn't have shit else to say!.......Thanx again Boyz!!!
Reservoir Dog
02-06-2006, 09:48 PM
jihad has been around well before america was founded, in the crusades infact when we (UK) and the cristian/catholic europes were fighting em. So i cant see it stopping, weired thing jihad was founded as a rule book to be freindly to westerners then reynold de chatillon started raiding and fucking it up then bam the jihad prgogressed to fighting then they won jerusalem and it became an all out guid to a DIY '' how to kill an infidel'' but we won it back then they did then we did again and divided it up.
so what was once a simply courtesy handbook became a book of war to the muslim people wich now is known as the basis of terrorism. why has it been called that now and not in 1000 - 1500 when we slapped em up before hand i dont know.
And really were never going to see the end of nukes an terrorism, we had ireland then iraq now to be iran and people are shitting themselves over N.Korea. imho were all fucked look whos at the button of britain and usa i can see bush or blair drinking a coffee or tea next to ''THE RED BUTTON'' and boom, whooops there goes france.
so why be worried about people who know who there killing and we know that we'll go over there and do burn over when some of the bigger problems sit in the white house or number 10.
ive had family come back from N.Ireland, the falklands and iraq hell even ww2 and the only one justified answer or at least knew why was my grandad and great uncles who were ww2 paras and infantry in germany and burma. and there was 2 countries seeking world domination who could of nearly done it.
its typical tho it starts now that im getting ready to go do my basic training
in 8 weeks, after i get ready to be able to do the physicals and not when we they were doing iraq.
so to cut it short... it could be worse. we could be facing ww3 like n.korea iran and other jihad motivated people come together and start there little group of evil or good depending on your views. And if a nuke is fired then everyone dies and we wont have to worry, iran fires one then the usa, uk, china, europe then russia so why complain when were all to blaim.
Strip n Maul!
02-06-2006, 10:14 PM
jihad has been around well before america was founded, in the crusades infact when we (UK) and the cristian/catholic europes were fighting em. So i cant see it stopping, weired thing jihad was founded as a rule book to be freindly to westerners then reynold de chatillon started raiding and fucking it up then bam the jihad prgogressed to fighting then they won jerusalem and it became an all out guid to a DIY '' how to kill an infidel'' but we won it back then they did then we did again and divided it up.
so what was once a simply courtesy handbook became a book of war to the muslim people wich now is known as the basis of terrorism. why has it been called that now and not in 1000 - 1500 when we slapped em up before hand i dont know.
And really were never going to see the end of nukes an terrorism, we had ireland then iraq now to be iran and people are shitting themselves over N.Korea. imho were all fucked look whos at the button of britain and usa i can see bush or blair drinking a coffee or tea next to ''THE RED BUTTON'' and boom, whooops there goes france.
so why be worried about people who know who there killing and we know that we'll go over there and do burn over when some of the bigger problems sit in the white house or number 10.
ive had family come back from N.Ireland, the falklands and iraq hell even ww2 and the only one justified answer or at least knew why was my grandad and great uncles who were ww2 paras and infantry in germany and burma. and there was 2 countries seeking world domination who could of nearly done it.
its typical tho it starts now that im getting ready to go do my basic training
in 8 weeks, after i get ready to be able to do the physicals and not when we they were doing iraq.
so to cut it short... it could be worse. we could be facing ww3 like n.korea iran and other jihad motivated people come together and start there little group of evil or good depending on your views. And if a nuke is fired then everyone dies and we wont have to worry, iran fires one then the usa, uk, china, europe then russia so why complain when were all to blaim.
Hey Bro
What did you end up deciding on? I hope you printed my advice and follow it as far as basic...you'll do well if you do. It'll save you a LOT of stress....what Branch did you decide on?? What Job???? Let me know...I hope "we" helped with advice......
Bluesman
02-06-2006, 10:58 PM
:shoot: If Iran tries to fuck with IsreaLIsreal will nuke em,simple as that.
You all are scaring me.....:hurl:
DAVE will you hold me???
Strip n Maul!
02-08-2006, 02:38 PM
ALL of us SHOULD be concerned....... Iran said if they were referred to the U.N. Security Council they would move to blockade the Straight of Hormuz and stop their domestic oil production to deal with ANY sanctions that would follow. Well the 1st step (being referred to the U.N. Security Council) has been taken and here's a link to show it.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/02/07/iran.un/index.html
Either of these steps on IRAN's part would drive Oil prices thru the ROOF! And THAT my friends would hit all of us here at S.L. right in the wallet. Once they start down this road and we (The World) respond that gives them the "Fuel" to go to their Ignorant JIHADIST supporters. Then like a LOT of football teams use (the ol "us vs the world" dogma) they can fire up the masses...PROLONG some negiotations.....and then...WEAPONIZATION!! And THEN President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will get to PULL the TRIGGER on his THREAT to wipe Israel "Off the Map" and he will do it!
Just a "Heads up" on the latest escalation step and what "it" means
Strip n Maul!
02-08-2006, 02:42 PM
You all are scaring me.....:hurl:
DAVE will you hold me???
Not scared but you should be concerned... and here's the latest link on the escalation that will lead to the conflict
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/02/07/iran.un/index.html
Check out the "milepost" posting for more....
Sanitarium
02-08-2006, 03:18 PM
Another fine post, fellow news junkie!!!
Reservoir Dog
02-08-2006, 04:03 PM
sweet posting again maul, great looking out. to be honest the news and actions that were being taken by wold leaders it was obvious this kind of thing would happen. lets just hope the rest of them wont follow suit behind iran and cut the west off oil.
Strip n Maul!
02-09-2006, 10:38 AM
Keep it up!!!! Patriots!!!
demetrius
02-11-2006, 01:41 AM
hope i posted this in the right place
http://www.shitty.ws/content/1014.html
Strip n Maul!
02-11-2006, 01:57 AM
O.K. I was starting to wonder where the hell THAT was going..then the payoff!! EXCELLANT!
thorysus
02-11-2006, 05:25 AM
so maybe im just wasted right now, which i am, but was this whole thing that we had finally found peace in the middle east then said fuck that let just kill them?
Strip n Maul!
02-11-2006, 05:32 AM
so maybe im just wasted right now, which i am, but was this whole thing that we had finally found peace in the middle east then said fuck that let just kill them?
Nooo BRO..it's just SATIRE....and with the BUZZ you just looked a lil too far into it!! Kinda funny actually LOL
BklynKnight
02-11-2006, 06:56 PM
Very good, loved the ending.
Strip n Maul!
02-11-2006, 06:56 PM
Aaaannndddd Today the Iran Foreign Minister SAID it was their RIGHT to ATTACK with "WHATEVER" weapons were available!!!!! (In a question about Israel).. FUCK Folks does ANYONE come CLOSE to being THAT much of a "LOOSE CANNON"!????? I think they want to be the SUPERPOWER of the Middle East..a RAGHEAD "WALKING TALL" as it were....THOUGHTS!!!
thorysus
02-12-2006, 12:07 AM
This sounds an awfgull lot like chicken little to me "the sky is falling. the sky is falling".
thorysus
02-12-2006, 12:21 AM
i watched it again and still didnt care for it. Guess i would just take the chance for peace anyday. I still didnt ike that peace was begiing to happen, then the ending. i didnt like that it implied we use peace as a means in with to get close to someone to kill them, cuz this govermnt does and i fuckin hate that. i watched again and gave it the benifit of a boubt but guess it just not my thing.
Strip n Maul!
02-12-2006, 12:40 AM
This sounds an awfgull lot like chicken little to me "the sky is falling. the sky is falling".
Isn't that what THEY do..THEY want you to fear ("the sky is falling etc.")..Fear works for them..fear of being attacked...fear of I.E.D.'s......Fear of another hostage getting their head sliced off.....I think the "Sky is Falling" is their most effective weapon.....
thorysus
02-12-2006, 12:53 AM
Yes its also what this goveerment wants ya to fear to so they can tighten their grips on the people even more.
dildevdes
02-12-2006, 01:00 AM
....notice that lil SHIT that tried to call me out didn't have shit else to say!
Well, lets get a few things straight.....
1. nobody called you out... merely debating things
2. I am not anti bush... anti government because of a trust issue..(my opinion)
3. If you feel so strongly about me then you know what to do!!!!!
Strip n Maul!
02-12-2006, 03:25 AM
....notice that lil SHIT that tried to call me out didn't have shit else to say!
Well, lets get a few things straight.....
1. nobody called you out... merely debating things
2. I am not anti bush... anti government because of a trust issue..(my opinion)
3. If you feel so strongly about me then you know what to do!!!!!
Relax man....I was speaking of that "Ripley33" guy that under "The State of the Union Address" thread called me a plagerist..who had ALL of 4 post and dove in and tried to "flame" me....
I've read your stuff and while not agreeing with all of it...was respectful to ya....and I've ALWAYS stated that I wish EVERYONE had an opinion and was involved in the "process" no matter WHAT their opinion is..... sooooo RELAX I wasn't talking about you.....and that Ripley33 guy had to REALLY come after me toget me a "lil" stirred up..I don't sweat'em.....Are we cool?
Strip n Maul!
02-12-2006, 05:36 AM
Yes its also what this goveerment wants ya to fear to so they can tighten their grips on the people even more.
I REALLY like ya THOR...your thoughtful post for the girl that got fired in "vent room" SHOWS you're a good guy....but do you actually FEEL the goverment tightening their grip........I've lived in the FAR EAST JAPAN/GUAM/KOREA/TAWAIN/THAILAND/PHILIPINES and FELT the GRIP....here I PARTY my ASS off....FUCK a LOT of WOMEN....pay my taxes/register my 4x4 and buy the FUCK outta my FAV guns and occasionally smoke a LOT of HYDRO!! "Home Grown".....However I NEVER FEEL "the grip"....and you could do a BUTTLOAD of fucking NONE of THAT overseas....MIGHT be put to DEATH ACTUALLY!!!!......"WE" have things we could DEFINITELY improve upon for SURE.....hope I can provide ya with just a "little" levity...we got IT GOOD BRO!!!!!!!...
thorysus
02-12-2006, 04:50 PM
I REALLY like ya THOR...your thoughtful post for the girl that got fired in "vent room" SHOWS you're a good guy....but do you actually FEEL the goverment tightening their grip........I've lived in the FAR EAST JAPAN/GUAM/KOREA/TAWAIN/THAILAND/PHILIPINES and FELT the GRIP....here I PARTY my ASS off....FUCK a LOT of WOMEN....pay my taxes/register my 4x4 and buy the FUCK outta my FAV guns and occasionally smoke a LOT of HYDRO!! "Home Grown".....However I NEVER FEEL "the grip"....and you could do a BUTTLOAD of fucking NONE of THAT overseas....MIGHT be put to DEATH ACTUALLY!!!!......"WE" have things we could DEFINITELY improve upon for SURE.....hope I can provide ya with just a "little" levity...we got IT GOOD BRO!!!!!!!...
Yes i feel the grip. In most (if not all) ways we have it better then other countries thats without a doubt, that dosnt mean that it right or even ok. After all if you eat less shit then your neighbor, your still eating shit. I believe we all have the right to not eat shit if we choose. I am what i call a true patriot. I strongly belief the beliefs of our forefathers and what they stod for when this country was founded. I strongly and firmly believe in the bill of rights and see those rights being takin from us constantly. I can see this goverments dirty deeds both foreighn and domestic are starting to bit it in its ass, And i think the goverment is cocky and arrogent and geting way outta hand with taxes, invasion of privacy and trying over and over again to redo the constitution and the bill of rights. The bill of rights are our only protection from this and any other goverment and they are slowly being taking away, bit by bit. I think we pay way to much in taxes and the list goes on and on. I am a true patriot, a patriot who still believes in what this country was founded upon not what they are trying to have us believe now.
I think those are the differences in what seperates our politcal beliefs. To me you dont seem all to bad, even probly cool in all ways, but I think that you - as to many of the population you have become complacent with what we have and therefore more likely to believe the half truths and smoke screens set forth by the governments and those acting on its behalf. I believe we are entitled to much more then awe have and believe this country we now live in is a not it was founded on and the comprimise between that and what we have can go alot further than it is. I think we the people have the short end of the stick by far!
Strip n Maul!
02-12-2006, 07:21 PM
Yes i feel the grip. In most (if not all) ways we have it better then other countries thats without a doubt, that dosnt mean that it right or even ok. After all if you eat less shit then your neighbor, your still eating shit. I believe we all have the right to not eat shit if we choose. I am what i call a true patriot. I strongly belief the beliefs of our forefathers and what they stod for when this country was founded. I strongly and firmly believe in the bill of rights and see those rights being takin from us constantly. I can see this goverments dirty deeds both foreighn and domestic are starting to bit it in its ass, And i think the goverment is cocky and arrogent and geting way outta hand with taxes, invasion of privacy and trying over and over again to redo the constitution and the bill of rights. The bill of rights are our only protection from this and any other goverment and they are slowly being taking away, bit by bit. I think we pay way to much in taxes and the list goes on and on. I am a true patriot, a patriot who still believes in what this country was founded upon not what they are trying to have us believe now.
I think those are the differences in what seperates our politcal beliefs. To me you dont seem all to bad, even probly cool in all ways, but I think that you - as to many of the population you have become complacent with what we have and therefore more likely to believe the half truths and smoke screens set forth by the governments and those acting on its behalf. I believe we are entitled to much more then awe have and believe this country we now live in is a not it was founded on and the comprimise between that and what we have can go alot further than it is. I think we the people have the short end of the stick by far!
VERY WELL put!! And well thought out as well..... I FIRMLY believe we pay too much in taxes..sooo we are in agreement there.... I ALSO agree with you that the country is NOT what it was FOUNDED on...I think LOBBYIST and LOBBY B.S. reform (there is NO REFORM) are a PRIME example of THAT...our founding Fathers also NEVER mean't to have a bunch of POLE SMOKIN/FUDGE PACKIN F'ing FAGGOTS Marrying each other... and your RIGHT in saying the compromise should go MORE the peoples way than Goverments......Our founding fathers NEVER would've thought there would be an A.C.L.U. trying to tear our BEDROCK beliefs APART!!!!
The Gov. is COCKY..and needs to be taken down a notch or 50!
NOW where you are WRONG...I am NOT complacent with what I have...I've served n FOUGHT for our freedoms..n would do so again..I take NOTHING for granted, that's why I make it a DAILY crusade to raise awareness....
Where you and I disagree..and I kind kinda "feel it"...is where and AGAIN I'm NO fan of GWB..where wiretapping (e-mail n phone n electronic media) is undertaken without the "FIZA" court being consulted.....is PARAMOUNT to protecting "us"..the fiza law was brought about in an age (NIxon) where the "Media" consisted of Phone Fax n Mail PERIOD...NOW it's different...and we NEED to re-visit and form NEW laws to HANDLE the current threat.....to EXPOSE our capability NOW would be to HELP the JIHADIST.....L.A. was saved an ATTACK on their TALLEST Bldg. because of what we are doing...if we had done "it" prior to 911 we could POSSIBLY have prevented "it".....
NOW..in this 1 INSTANCE for NATIONAL Security reasons and we're at WAR...I AGREE with BUSH......if YOU don't at least CONSIDER that it's NEEDED and has saved LIVES!!!
Outside of THAT we are closer in agreement on a LOT of things than either of us realized....I'm GLAD this conversation was "provoked" otherwise I wouldn't have gotten to hear your views above and realize the level of Patriot you are..and respect THAT.......more later!
thorysus
02-12-2006, 07:29 PM
Yes i must admit we are in agreeence more than i thought myself. This is cool and its always a good thing to understand others. Yes i look froward to further talks, but for now i must go help my buddy move his damn 5 million pound tv in the basement. (well ok it only 500 but damn sure feels like 5 million to me!)
Redneck
02-13-2006, 02:11 AM
My response to any political charge is always the same: do you have examples?
Post for me examples of how the Bill of Rights has been threatened, diminished or usurped.
Post examples of Founding Fathers' principles that are being or have been betrayed.
Clear examples speak vastly more effectively than one's opinion and overview.
lawngnome
02-13-2006, 11:25 PM
Apparently, our Vice President accidentally shot somebody over the weekend.
The news story...
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/13/politics/13cnd-cheney.html?hp&ex=1139893200&en=181b942291c6b3ef&ei=5094&partner=homepage
Fuck the news story, just click this.
http://dickhunt.ytmnd.com/
revidffum
02-13-2006, 11:34 PM
This is fuckin' great!! I love that this fuckstick is SO FUCKING INEPT, he can't even do this right!!!! My cock actually got hard when I heard this story...I bet if they said he had a massive coranary right after it happened I would have busted a nut!!! Maybe it is a good thing he got
out of the draft so many times...fucker would have single handedly wiped us out!!!
thorysus
02-13-2006, 11:48 PM
Oh i love it! Thats why dubbyas job is safe, his replacement is possibly the only fucker dumner then he is. He was quail hunting, my question is was this dan or the bird? either which was his stupid fuckin ass mistoke his buddy for the object and shot him. Damn. What a dumn ass. Maybe an intellegence test should be mandatory with gun sales,lol.
Strip n Maul!
02-13-2006, 11:49 PM
And NOW The White HOUSE is in DEEP SHIT for covering up for 23 hrs what is admittely a funny incident.....but it's indicative of how this White House works...TOTAL control of the "spin" process...even when it's NOT needed like here........they let the land owner tell the local paper....then 23 hrs later they acknowledged..there was "more info. coming "in" about the "incident"....
Bungle Katrina.....that's a HUGE affair and prone to problems..like political appointments, FUCKING up...but to bungle THIS...OVERCONTROL bit'em in the ASS!!!!
thorysus
02-13-2006, 11:55 PM
My response to any political charge is always the same: do you have examples?
Post for me examples of how the Bill of Rights has been threatened, diminished or usurped.
Post examples of Founding Fathers' principles that are being or have been betrayed.
Clear examples speak vastly more effectively than one's opinion and overview.
Yes i understand this response but to me this is such a no brainer that if you (or anyone for that matter) dont know i would stingly recomend doing your homework. This is something that needs to be learned by the individual and not shown. By learning it for one self the full impact of such horrible things come into full play, as it should be. To just be showed or to learn this lessons the fact and does not do it the justice it deserves.
So for those who do not know about our founding forefathers and the rights they had in mind at the founding of this country and the bill of rights, get off your ass and learn them! This is a vitale aspect to being an american!
revidffum
02-14-2006, 12:27 AM
Post for me examples of how the Bill of Rights has been threatened, diminished or usurped.
Post examples of Founding Fathers' principles that are being or have been betrayed.
The Federal firearms act of 1934!
Sanitarium
02-14-2006, 12:34 AM
Time to use my famous phrase-
"What a Tool!!!!"
demetrius
02-14-2006, 01:15 AM
he must of pissed off bush and chenney drew the smallest stick
Redneck
02-14-2006, 02:35 AM
I...feel sorry for Cheney.
I am into guns bigtime and gun safety is the mother of all gun issues. Cheney broke Rule #1; know what you're shooting at.
Ya gotta see this like a gun-head does.....man....if that were me, my head would be hanging in shame. But Cheney, he's got the world laughing at him over this. Fuck his life is sucking today.
I can see the humor of this, it's just that what he did is most gun-heads' greatest fear, or teen lovers, the accidental discharge....
It reminds me of that famous porn quote: "hey, watch where you point that thing!" "SPLOOGE" "*sigh* you asshole"
The guy under the chick in a three way and Cheney's huntin' bud have a lot in common when the aim is off a hair.....
Redneck
02-14-2006, 02:44 AM
Yes i understand this response but to me this is such a no brainer that if you (or anyone for that matter) dont know i would stingly recomend doing your homework. This is something that needs to be learned by the individual and not shown. By learning it for one self the full impact of such horrible things come into full play, as it should be. To just be showed or to learn this lessons the fact and does not do it the justice it deserves.
So for those who do not know about our founding forefathers and the rights they had in mind at the founding of this country and the bill of rights, get off your ass and learn them! This is a vitale aspect to being an american!
I disagree with this. When you say the Constitution is being eroded, it's not a no-brainer for me to ask where exactly that you see that happening.
I will give an example right off the top of my head.
The principle of separation of church and state is the first phrase (the establishment clause) of the first amendment. James Madison is it's primary author, though it was revised via congressional review twice. Thomas Jefferson was President when it was implemented.
It IS a significant erosion of Madison's clear intention that the wall of separation be absolute, for the current administration to employ "faith based initiatives" and supply them with one single cent of taxpayer money. Again, there are also significant breaches with separation of church and state seen in the use of the Bible in courtrooms for oath affirmation, labelling currency with "in god we trust" and the Pledge, an officially governmentally authorised oath, to include mention of god. Madison was so strict in his original intent that he wanted no clergy to obtain military laychecks, as chaplains do and have done for some time. The Salvation Army, in case you don't know this, is 90% government funded currently.
That is answering the question at hand (though, it was a question I supplied myself).
If you see various principles being eroded, it is not too much to ask that you give a decent answer and explain yourself. There are, after all, people who think the government UFO conspiracy and the faked lunar landings are proof that the Founding Fathers' legacies have been raped.
I like a good discussion Thor. Your answer that such things are obvious fails to convince me that they are, or what they are.
thorysus
02-14-2006, 04:47 AM
I understand you like good discussions, i remebr that about you,lol. And i for one know (or think i know) you understand what my views on this. My point do you think its better for someone tolearn of thier feeling of the rights by hearsay of others or by learning them for themselves? I think learning them for themselves is by far best (although i did not know your example and learning that did make me happy). Maybe we could actually post the 10 amnedments then we could realy talk about them, lol.
Redneck
02-14-2006, 10:11 AM
The Federal firearms act of 1934!
Hey Rev, I'd like you to expand on that. I know nothing about this, fill me in bro.
I am very familiar with the un-Constitutional Clinton gun ban, which yielded zero drop in firearms based crimes, but did remove the essence of the second amendment for a time.
digger
02-14-2006, 05:01 PM
Good thing he's not running for Pres. after Bushe's term, We'd really be screwed LOL
Reservoir Dog
02-14-2006, 05:04 PM
i saw about it on BBC news. guy was wearing bright orange hunting vest, was 30 yards away and in plain view and DICK peppered him. He said he was going for a grouse or something alike i cant remember that part.
lol im not sure why the big uproar tho i mean has it effected any other americans over there? I would of just luaghed and carried on watching.
digger
02-14-2006, 05:11 PM
MAUL for PRESIDENT !! Man u make for the best reading. When I read your posts most of the time they represent my view but I am in no way as articulate as you. Keep up the good work, and thank you for taking the time to place your posts. You can tell that it takes some time. Great Job !!!
Strip n Maul!
02-14-2006, 06:07 PM
NOT Sooo FUCKING FUNNY NOW!!! The guy Chaney shot just had a HEART ATTACK!!!!
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/14/cheney/index.html
demetrius
02-14-2006, 07:31 PM
i use to go hunting years ago when i had time ,and when i was gonna shoot my target i was 110% sure what it was. i think theres alot more to the story than told.
Reservoir Dog
02-14-2006, 09:00 PM
i heard that they were actualy blaming this wounding guy or something along the lines and saying it was his fault not sure if was true it was on the radio.
Redneck
02-15-2006, 12:56 AM
Motherfucking OUTSTANDING reply Rev! God damn, every word of that was spot on the mark. Man, I love an educated patriot.
I can only add that back when the second amendment was written, the troops actually were us civilians. That is what "militia" means, armed patriotic citizens. The National Guard was founded precisely along these lines.
So, a full and complete understanding of the right to keep and bear arms means that we have to right to keep and bear arms of a grade and type that could, if needed, be used to arm a loyal patriotic militia against our own government, should it turn against the people or the Constitution.
I grant that the Founding Fathers could not foresee the technological advances in weapons, so I offer my mere opinion that the line should be at grenades, explosives, and the like. Full auto weapons should be available to patriots like you and I Rev, and a bunch of other good folks around here.
Thanks for that post. I like knowing I am not the only one who looks this shit up and cares about our American heritage.
We oughtta hook up and ride someday.
Strip n Maul!
02-15-2006, 01:41 AM
Hey Redneck and Revidffum
Wanted to thank you guys and give you credit for 2 FINE post. I Haven't SEEN the Bill of Rights since High School. While KNOWING most of them, this gave me a chance for a refresher, that I otherwise wouldn't have pursued.......reading this gave me chills!! And it was soooo COOL to SEE them again....thanx Redneck!
Revidffum I'd NEVER even HEARD of The Federal Firearms Act of 1934
READING this taught me a LOT.....Amazing history! THANX Bro!!
You guys ROCK!! Thanx Again!
thorysus
02-15-2006, 02:26 AM
redifffum, i knew the basics of that acts but not the name or otherthings you have mentioned, fucking great!
And Thor, would you have ever learned this about Madison, the history of the first amendment, and where it began precisely, so that a proper measurement of lessening loyalty to the principle as it was originally intended could be understood?
See, this proves my point that a deep claim should be backed by a deep answer.
I would like you to expound on your claims and prove your points. Otherwise, they are mere opinions, no better than anyone else's.
Today 12:47 AM
redneck, That being said and provided i must admit most of my OPINIONS are just that. I dot believe them to be better than anyone elses but thats not the issue here. The issue is no i would not have learned that without this post and i must admit your point is very much accepeted and appreciated. Very well done and i must say i ageree with you. I would love to pick your brain and learn the history facts you have in there. I have the bill of rights listed in my house so i did know them but i must say i need to learn my history better. I have not had the advantages of any collage or even a good highschool education but have done history research in my past. Usually in my crowd i am among the most patriotic but i must admit i at best fall to the backseat in amoungst you all. Damn thats a love hate thing. I do commend you cuz now i must go reasearch some more history for my opinions obvisously will not stand up to your knowledge of history. well its a ego kick in the ass but i gotta say fuckin good, About time someone kicked me in the ass and put some fire under me again to make me look up such things. Although my opinons will always be very important to me and my reasoning (and all i need as well) i can see that history and fact make a much better debate. Fuck you and thank you!
Redneck
02-15-2006, 09:53 AM
redneck, That being said and provided i must admit most of my OPINIONS are just that. I dot believe them to be better than anyone elses but thats not the issue here. The issue is no i would not have learned that without this post and i must admit your point is very much accepeted and appreciated. Very well done and i must say i ageree with you. I would love to pick your brain and learn the history facts you have in there. I have the bill of rights listed in my house so i did know them but i must say i need to learn my history better. I have not had the advantages of any collage or even a good highschool education but have done history research in my past. Usually in my crowd i am among the most patriotic but i must admit i at best fall to the backseat in amoungst you all. Damn thats a love hate thing. I do commend you cuz now i must go reasearch some more history for my opinions obvisously will not stand up to your knowledge of history. well its a ego kick in the ass but i gotta say fuckin good, About time someone kicked me in the ass and put some fire under me again to make me look up such things. Although my opinons will always be very important to me and my reasoning (and all i need as well) i can see that history and fact make a much better debate. Fuck you and thank you!
I like to understand things Thor. My purpose with this demonstration was not to come at you, rather, to come to understand you and let you understand me. I respect, but differ with some of the things you say and ways you think. Being a true believer in freedom, those differences do not stand in the way of respect, friendship, and getting along well.
I would say by far the finest, highest, most true, and most life-changing thing I ever read in my life is the United States Constitution. Nothing I ever read had the impact upon me that that great work did.
I will never disrespect you Thor (except recreationally, this is Strangeland after all, lol!) even where we think differently. You challenge me in a good way, you have kindhearted principles that force me to consider if I am too hard-assed or rigid in my views.
When an exchange causes both parties to re-think themselves, that is remarkable, and...kinda rare.
So, here's my respect for you Thor. Here's me thinking you don't suck. and here's to the future where ya state your ideas in the full and challenge my beliefs moreso. No belief should be cowardly or fail to stand any honest test.
It's all good, dawg.
Redneck
02-15-2006, 10:04 AM
Two things:
The guy Cheney accidentally shot had a heart attack. This could get really bad for both of them.
The press has gone insane (again). Every time they go overboard to sensationalize, they just piss me off more than I already am at them for Hollywoodifying every story for maximum ratings. We no longer have news, it's paranoia-mongering, shock and awe farming, and taking common sad everyday things like any story from Nancy Grace's selected best murder of the week to cover for ratings, or Dick Cheney's hunting accident for thrilling ratings for all to not enjoy.
They all remind me of Randall McCloy's (the only miner to survive the tragedy in West Virginia) brother who went to his hospital room and took a pic of his own brother for the National Enquirer for 800 dollars. Vultures feeding on the sadness of others for better ratings and profit.
The media disgusts me.
I would have more respect for the VP if he just stood up and said "Yes I shot him cause he was a dickhead".
There is a war coming with Iran. Anyone with even a little intellegence can see that. What most do not think is a war with them is going to cost a whole lot more. Not talking money. The death toll in a war with them will be crazy. Personally I can not wait for it to happen. It will get rid of a lot of the pricks in this world. It would be a good population control as well. Would be a good way to clean up our prison system. Send all the convicts(Death Row and Lifers) over there to die and save us money.
thorysus
02-15-2006, 03:57 PM
I like to understand things Thor. My purpose with this demonstration was not to come at you, rather, to come to understand you and let you understand me. I respect, but differ with some of the things you say and ways you think. Being a true believer in freedom, those differences do not stand in the way of respect, friendship, and getting along well.
I would say by far the finest, highest, most true, and most life-changing thing I ever read in my life is the United States Constitution. Nothing I ever read had the impact upon me that that great work did.
I will never disrespect you Thor (except recreationally, this is Strangeland after all, lol!) even where we think differently. You challenge me in a good way, you have kindhearted principles that force me to consider if I am too hard-assed or rigid in my views.
When an exchange causes both parties to re-think themselves, that is remarkable, and...kinda rare.
So, here's my respect for you Thor. Here's me thinking you don't suck. and here's to the future where ya state your ideas in the full and challenge my beliefs moreso. No belief should be cowardly or fail to stand any honest test.
It's all good, dawg.
I didnt think you were disrespecting me at all. I liked the challenge and debate. I also loved the fact you made me think and realise my beliefs are based on a history hat is not as prominant in my mind as it once was. I liked you made me lealise i became one that i distrust and often dog on by becoming placent in my views and forgetting why i feel so strongly about them. It was good for me. I do place what i feel and believe more so on what ive learned in life then what ive learned in school (because my education is lacking) but in return that has made my beliefs become unbalanced which just drives mr fuckin nuts. I will post my thoughts and beliefs, believe me i would love to share them more but you have forced me to get balance and learn the book version as well. This is good and i look forward to my homework (its gotten long over due) and agian i thank you for this, even though its humbling, it was needed. look forwrd toour future disscussion. Maybe we (and this included maul and revidffum) will find ourt we have more in common than once thought. I know me and maul has. Even if it dont our different views and opinions will broaden and open our minds to more then history and out personal thoughts but those of otheres and what they believe (weather we agree or not - after all you dont have to agree to understand or repect) and after all isnt that what true knowledge is all about?
Redneck
02-17-2006, 04:41 AM
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks
Enormous page. Make the time to read this and know your fucking enemy.
Oh, I went shopping today:
http://www.shopmetrospy.com/cgi-bin/sc-v4/shopmecprod2.pl?client=shopmetro&catid=54&PRID=361
It's on, Redneck declares war.
Gambit5000
02-17-2006, 05:23 AM
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks
Enormous page. Make the time to read this and know your fucking enemy.
Oh, I went shopping today:
http://www.shopmetrospy.com/cgi-bin/sc-v4/shopmecprod2.pl?client=shopmetro&catid=54&PRID=361
It's on, Redneck declares war.
That Pic On That Page Is More Than Enough For Me To Go To War!!!! Lets Do It Red!!!:shoot: :shooting: :evil:
Redneck
02-17-2006, 05:35 AM
I wake at 5am, staying up late is rare for me. It's 1:30am here right now. I could not stop reading at that site.
Make no mistake brothers and sisters, the Redneck is now full-on total Elvis fucking Presley anti-islam. I'll be back in 5 days after my son's furlough ends. I will do some research and post the best facts I find about the homocidal raging anti-freedom women-are-less-than-dogs "religion of peace".
Gambit, glad you're with us bro. Your back, I got.
See y'all in 5.
Joker
02-17-2006, 12:37 PM
Joker is locked and loaded........I'm in...........
Strip n Maul!
02-17-2006, 02:59 PM
FUCKING good stuff!! I'm in!! These sick FUCKS (Mullahs) are Cowards that destroy young minds with the religion of HATE!!! You don't EVER see a cleric blowing himself up or shooting at anybody there's a Frontline Show that talks to families of suicide bombers..they HATE the Mullah's and what they've done to their brother/Dads..some are told their families will be taken careof and then it doesn't happen...or and this is REALLY sad...they've done it for as little as for a FUCKING CELL PHONE for their families! FUCKERS need to be hunted like the VERMIN they ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
joemichaels1982
02-17-2006, 03:53 PM
I don't know why u guys keep on making this shit so complicated when there is a very simple solution to all of this and here it is,
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/8316/nuclearexplosion6ze.gif (http://imageshack.us)
Nuke the fuckers!!!
Belinda
02-17-2006, 04:02 PM
I don't know why u guys keep on making this shit so complicated when there is a very simple solution to all of this and here it is,
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/8316/nuclearexplosion6ze.gif (http://imageshack.us)
Nuke the fuckers!!!
Bravo this was good
klaudija05
02-17-2006, 04:05 PM
Bravo this was good
Yeah right, what will Srbians say...
You two are sick...lol
Belinda
02-17-2006, 04:06 PM
I can't understand one thing-all wars in our world history were making in the name of God,love and peace.And now can somebady tell me did God asked from us to kill or to love eachother?
Belinda
02-17-2006, 04:07 PM
Yeah right, what will Srbians say...
You two are sick...lol
you are crazy and big rasist fucker and don't ask money from me tonight
klaudija05
02-17-2006, 04:12 PM
you are crazy and big rasist fucker and don't ask money from me tonight
Fuck you mom:phukyou: , I got my daddy on my side!!! lol
Belinda
02-17-2006, 04:18 PM
Apparently, our Vice President accidentally shot somebody over the weekend.
The news story...
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/13/politics/13cnd-cheney.html?hp&ex=1139893200&en=181b942291c6b3ef&ei=5094&partner=homepage
Fuck the news story, just click this.
http://dickhunt.ytmnd.com/
This is nothing-our former polise minister on one militari eksersajs shut and hurt four and with numbers 4 people
Belinda
02-17-2006, 04:20 PM
Fuck you mom:phukyou: , I got my daddy on my side!!! lol
don't forget that i sleep with him
klaudija05
02-17-2006, 04:21 PM
This is nothing-our former polise minister on one militari eksersajs shut and hurt four and with numbers 4 people
Yeah, that woos some funny shit mom!
Belinda
02-17-2006, 04:21 PM
don't forget that i sleep with him
and i forget Who has the money?
thorysus
02-17-2006, 04:29 PM
I can't understand one thing-all wars in our world history were making in the name of God,love and peace.And now can somebady tell me did God asked from us to kill or to love eachother?
Yes all true religions pratice love and peace in thier docterines. Its the twist the poeple put on this dogma that makes people do these sick and twisted things. I blame the people for twisting and manipulating religious beliefs, not the religions them self.
klaudija05
02-17-2006, 04:35 PM
Yes all true religions pratice love and peace in thier docterines. Its the twist the poeple put on this dogma that makes people do these sick and twisted things. I blame the people for twisting and manipulating religious beliefs, not the religions them self.
Yes man, I think the same wey!!!
That's way I dont even post on this side, cose people are fuckd up, so way shood I get nervos on shit that I cant change...
thorysus
02-17-2006, 04:36 PM
I agree the the pree is lame. the news has become entertainment news and about rating morethen the actuall news. I also believe they smoke screen other bif time news events with others.
I do believe this was an accident because short if getting bushed load shoy up his ass or down his throat im not sure cheny can do anything else right (well he obvisosly cant hunt/kill animals or people himself).
Belinda
02-17-2006, 04:42 PM
[QUOTE=thorysus]Yes all true religions pratice love and peace in thier docterines. Its the twist the poeple put on this dogma that makes people do these sick and twisted things. I blame the people for twisting and manipulating religious beliefs, not the religions them self.[/QUOYes thats true I think that hate bring hate(and I hate)and I cant live with those religion fanatizam like islam becouse and my country had a war with albanians and they were and muslimans,and we had muchahedins and still they are here,but in one small second we all must understand that religion is not a dogma-O.K.mayby dogma but not from God,becouse if we belive in God,not in words or temples, than we belive in pure love and we have peace in our souls and nobady can't manipulate us
klaudija05
02-17-2006, 04:46 PM
Yes all true religions pratice love and peace in thier docterines. Its the twist the poeple put on this dogma that makes people do these sick and twisted things. I blame the people for twisting and manipulating religious beliefs, not the religions them self.Yes thats true I think that hate bring hate(and I hate)and I cant live with those religion fanatizam like islam becouse and my country had a war with albanians and they were and muslimans,and we had muchahedins and still they are here,but in one small second we all must understand that religion is not a dogma-O.K.mayby dogma but not from God,becouse if we belive in God,not in words or temples, than we belive in pure love and we have peace in our souls and nobady can't manipulate us
Amen to that mom...
And now lady's and gent's we got the preacher in the hous!
thorysus
02-17-2006, 04:47 PM
Yes man, I think the same wey!!!
That's way I dont even post on this side, cose people are fuckd up, so way shood I get nervos on shit that I cant change...
right on sister! I know its impossible to change the hard core beliefs of the religious right but i always like to throw in my 2 cents to keep the possiblity open for the less extreme who still have some freethinkin left in thier heads and human repect pride and dignity left in thier hearts to at least take into consideration other beliefs and thouhts. But yes i get shit for it but that what a patriot and true believer of peace and love gets. We and our beliefs are always shunned and so often forgotten i dont blame anyone for keeping it to themselves, it really dosent payoff. But i guess im just a stuburn jackass with uses the freedoms i beive every living soul should have. This is a freedom that does have a price to pay or consequences from stating them openly, but is a founding principle to not only america but to all hopes for humanity world wide.
Belinda
02-17-2006, 04:49 PM
Amen to that mom...
And now lady's and gent's we got the preacher in the hous!
Can you live me please and if you don't stop with fucking me I'll start to write about books to LAZAREV and you know what is that
klaudija05
02-17-2006, 04:53 PM
Can you live me please and if you don't stop with fucking me I'll start to write about books to LAZAREV and you know what is that
Ok, ok, everything but Lazarev...
I'm steaping out...
Belinda
02-17-2006, 04:59 PM
Can you live me please and if you don't stop with fucking me I'll start to write about books to LAZAREV and you know what is that
i belive in this fucking world,i belive that we'll change our minds
and i belive at least HOPE if you wish but i belive that God will help to all of us.
thorysus
02-17-2006, 05:21 PM
[QUOTE=thorysus]Yes all true religions pratice love and peace in thier docterines. Its the twist the poeple put on this dogma that makes people do these sick and twisted things. I blame the people for twisting and manipulating religious beliefs, not the religions them self.[/QUOYes thats true I think that hate bring hate(and I hate)and I cant live with those religion fanatizam like islam becouse and my country had a war with albanians and they were and muslimans,and we had muchahedins and still they are here,but in one small second we all must understand that religion is not a dogma-O.K.mayby dogma but not from God,becouse if we belive in God,not in words or temples, than we belive in pure love and we have peace in our souls and nobady can't manipulate us
well right the fuck on!!!! said wonderfully! Im gonna go out on a limb and will probley get fucked for saying this (again) but what the hell. I beleive all religion is man made (not neccarirly the beilf in a higher power but religion). It is a forum and a structure whch is/was made to help people releate to their personal higher beliefs. Some people dont need these at all while other need them feircly. there is no wright or wrong, just different, as people are. Religion to me is very much like people in general, basically all the same (skin, blood hearts, organs, minds, etc) but the way in which WE CHOOSE the path for them is the differenct. some maybe loners others not complete without a large family. theres no right or wrong way for everyone. not everyone is the same, different people need different things. Hence the differences in religions or the absence there of. Its all about personal chioce and whats works for the individual. But there is a wrong way to act and that i beleve is to damage, hurt, control, misuse, manipulate, etc.. others and thier free will. these are human faults (not neccarly religious ones). people who act upon these are the one who need to be dealt with accordinly. Every group of people weather its in a religiuos organiization, a tatoo convention, car shows,
rich, poor, etc has extremist and people who dont act in thier and others best behalf. these are the individuals (or group of like mind individuals)that need to be dealt with,not the belief system or the group as whole. After all the only way to kill all assholes of all groups is to kill everyone.
klaudija05
02-17-2006, 05:32 PM
well right the fuck on!!!! said wonderfully! Im gonna go out on a limb and will probley get fucked
Yes man, i have a smart mom...
Crazy, but smart! lol
joemichaels1982
02-17-2006, 05:32 PM
Hey belinda sta je bre sa lazarev, lol
klaudija05
02-17-2006, 05:38 PM
Hey belinda sta je bre sa lazarev, lol
Idi jebi se.... lmao
Strip n Maul!
02-17-2006, 05:40 PM
I don't know why u guys keep on making this shit so complicated when there is a very simple solution to all of this and here it is,
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/8316/nuclearexplosion6ze.gif (http://imageshack.us)
Nuke the fuckers!!!
Dude you are the MASTER of the JPG crafting one thing after another!! GOOD STUFF!!
joemichaels1982
02-17-2006, 05:40 PM
Idi jebi se.... lmao
Zezam se bre, lol i ne mogu se jebati sam treba mi pomoc
thorysus
02-17-2006, 05:44 PM
ahhh what? i dont understand, help me to understand.
klaudija05
02-17-2006, 05:48 PM
ahhh what? i dont understand, help me to understand.
He woos asking my mom -what's up whit thet Lazarev guy (just to tezz me)?
And I woos like "fuck you man"!
BklynKnight
02-17-2006, 06:01 PM
And there are some people who say we should'nt blomb these people back into the stone age....
http://apnews.myway.com//article/20060217/D8FQV798B.html
thorysus
02-17-2006, 08:27 PM
its a fuckin cartoon! yes cartoons and comics are a good source of propaganda but thats because they are funny to some. to go all ape shit because some made a cartoon or comis is just down right silly. If you have that much energy to fight this hard over a cartoon, go get laid!
WHITE DEVIL
02-17-2006, 09:42 PM
My first visit to the politics room and you will see why.
A million dollar bounty on an artist that drew a prophet in his comic.
Ponder this for a moment:
Have you ever noticed that these people call themselves the Holiest yet they are always plotting a death on somebody. They have the most fucked up beliefs that can ever be imagined. Suicide bombings and outright assasinations are not really good ways to get into the upper graces, if you know what I mean.
Some of the quotes of their Holy men are a direct line of thought as to what Hitler wanted. He was considered the Anti-Christ for wanting to kill all but his race, which wasn't his true race to begin with. These slurpee machine fuckers want to do the same thing and are considered Holy. At least Hitler didn't hide his intentions behind a wall of false religon. From day one , the Towely programs hate of all others and opposers into the minds of their children. All in the name of Allah. If a little comic strip upset them, I say we should install a little bit of American History into their Holy land. If they could experience the drastic effects of Hiroshima they just might convert.
All that sand and guts would make a nice piece of "stained" glass.
You can bet your red white and blue ass that Allah would not pop in for a cameo shot.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c359/whitedevil1971/usa.gif
lol ,
all these people running "amok?"
dont they have jobs? think about it.......
revidffum
02-17-2006, 10:55 PM
Please forgive my nasty ass spelling in this post. I don't know if you guys remember about 18 or 20 years ago, the leader of Iran...Iatolla Komainie offered a 1 million dollar bounty on the head of an author named Solamon Rushdey because his book had some shit in it about Islam and Allah...he went into hiding in England somewhere...it was all over the news.
WHITE DEVIL
02-17-2006, 11:11 PM
Please forgive my nasty ass spelling in this post. I don't know if you guys remember about 18 or 20 years ago, the leader of Iran...Iatolla Komainie offered a 1 million dollar bounty on the head of an author named Solamon Rushdey because his book had some shit in it about Islam and Allah...he went into hiding in England somewhere...it was all over the news.
Thats what I'm talking about?
And they have the guts to call themselves Holy fighters. I figure since they like Holy wars, we ought to drop a bomb on them so they can have a "Holy Shit".
I can't ever remember hearing about the pope putting a hit out on someone. Maybe he wasn't Holy enough to have them kind of contacts.
evilfairygirl
02-17-2006, 11:17 PM
Thats what I'm talking about?
And they have the guts to call themselves Holy fighters. I figure since they like Holy wars, we ought to drop a bomb on them so they can have a "Holy Shit".
I can't ever remember hearing about the pope putting a hit out on someone. Maybe he wasn't Holy enough to have them kind of contacts.
I totally agree with you Devil....These are the most hateful 'holy' people I've seen.....makes no sense.....
S4inT_Ch4Os
02-17-2006, 11:34 PM
Yea i dont understand any one who says "thou shalt not kill..." yet there willing to grab an ak 47 and start shooting people up its just slefrighteous bullshit if you ask me. THen the fuckers try to say there better than everybuddy else because there doing it for a religious reason its bullshit.
revidffum
02-17-2006, 11:58 PM
It's not that there religion is violent, as much as it is, they haven't stepped into this fucking century. Lets not forget...Christianity was a violent religion...1000years ago!! The problem is, these fuckers are in the richest region of the world, and there all poverty stricken because there leaders are taking all the cash and controling them with hunger and getting them all riled up by blaming all of the "non belivers" for there problems...like if America goes away, suddenly they will all have Beemers in there garages. If they were a little more advaced...they would be stuffing campagne contributions into the pockets of the leaders that represent there agenda...LIKE THE RELEGIOUS RIGHT DOES HERE. I can't belive I'm getting my quotes from tee shirts, but...
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/1589/incitewar0xr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
WHITE DEVIL
02-18-2006, 12:21 AM
Your right. A propagandist will use any angle they can.
revidffum
02-18-2006, 12:40 AM
Fuck ya' they will...the old bait and switch. Look at Yaser Arifat, that fucking scumball stole MILLIONS...maybe BILLIONS of dollars, that the U.S.A. gave Palistien as grants and aid, and he lived fat and high on the hog while his people suffered...but it wasn't his fault...it was the Jews. These fuckers that did 9/11 were reported to be boozin' it up and hanging out in titty bars before they pulled off there little slaughter. In fact there was reports that the lead guy...Attah, I think...didn't even tell the others what was up. He knew...they were lovin it here and wouldn't have gone through with it if they knew. Over there they have nothing, there kings live in fucking palaces that are so fucking elaborit and fancy...it would be disgusting to a gay interior decorater. Do you know, that Saudi Arabia has 21 princes...each one a BILLIONAIRE...the richest people in the world...how do there people live??
WHITE DEVIL
02-18-2006, 01:35 AM
Thats the Book of Allah for you.
" We are all equal except you and you and you and you and you and you and most definitely you and that guy and that starving old lady and that dude over there with the blue eyed camel and that kid and you and you and her (dam she's ugly) and that man and you.................................."
revidffum
02-18-2006, 01:46 AM
They don't make them hags wear burkas for no reason man!!!
thorysus
02-18-2006, 02:44 AM
It's not that there religion is violent, as much as it is, they haven't stepped into this fucking century. Lets not forget...Christianity was a violent religion...1000years ago!! The problem is, these fuckers are in the richest region of the world, and there all poverty stricken because there leaders are taking all the cash and controling them with hunger and getting them all riled up by blaming all of the "non belivers" for there problems...like if America goes away, suddenly they will all have Beemers in there garages. If they were a little more advaced...they would be stuffing campagne contributions into the pockets of the leaders that represent there agenda...LIKE THE RELEGIOUS RIGHT DOES HERE. I can't belive I'm getting my quotes from tee shirts, but...
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/1589/incitewar0xr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
thats the first thing i thought when i read that shirt was fuck, i want ine,lol. revidffum (damn i need to be dislexic just to type your fuckin name, almost gave me a seiuzre, gotta find a nick name) i do believe ya nailed it on the head there. outstanding and what a good post!!!
thorysus
02-18-2006, 02:49 AM
kewl thanks for the klown clearing,lol. my head was scrabbled (shock shock surprise). wasnt this guy a russian astronaught? anyway what happened to this thread did it just die out? damn i already miss redneck, post ya fucks.
Darkwolf
02-18-2006, 06:17 AM
Dumb shit like this just gives the gunhaters an opening to start yelling BAN ALL GUNS. It was an accident. Yes, he should have been more careful and that was his fuckup. Lets just move on and worry about the important things.
Darkwolf
02-18-2006, 06:34 AM
I agree with alot of what you said Thor. I don't really care what people believe as long as it doesn't effect me or mine. You should be able to live as you like as long as you don't hurt others.
Strip n Maul!
02-18-2006, 08:23 AM
My first visit to the politics room and you will see why.
A million dollar bounty on an artist that drew a prophet in his comic.
Ponder this for a moment:
Have you ever noticed that these people call themselves the Holiest yet they are always plotting a death on somebody. They have the most fucked up beliefs that can ever be imagined. Suicide bombings and outright assasinations are not really good ways to get into the upper graces, if you know what I mean.
Some of the quotes of their Holy men are a direct line of thought as to what Hitler wanted. He was considered the Anti-Christ for wanting to kill all but his race, which wasn't his true race to begin with. These slurpee machine fuckers want to do the same thing and are considered Holy. At least Hitler didn't hide his intentions behind a wall of false religon. From day one , the Towely programs hate of all others and opposers into the minds of their children. All in the name of Allah. If a little comic strip upset them, I say we should install a little bit of American History into their Holy land. If they could experience the drastic effects of Hiroshima they just might convert.
All that sand and guts would make a nice piece of "stained" glass.
You can bet your red white and blue ass that Allah would not pop in for a cameo shot.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c359/whitedevil1971/usa.gif
FUCKIN good post!! I LIKE it!
H.C.S.Klown
02-18-2006, 08:25 AM
Who knows Thor mabey they will start some shit in Dearborn. When my Bro was down to visit here in NC durring 9/11 we almost drove up there casue he got a call from his friends talking about Dearborn. So mabey this will spark something. Ill be there.
revidffum
02-18-2006, 12:48 PM
thats the first thing i thought when i read that shirt was fuck, i want ine,lol. revidffum (damn i need to be dislexic just to type your fuckin name, almost gave me a seiuzre, gotta find a nick name) i do believe ya nailed it on the head there. outstanding and what a good post!!!
The name of the company is Wicked Jester, they have a website with the same name...lots of funny and wild shit there.
thorysus
02-18-2006, 09:51 PM
Who knows Thor mabey they will start some shit in Dearborn. When my Bro was down to visit here in NC durring 9/11 we almost drove up there casue he got a call from his friends talking about Dearborn. So mabey this will spark something. Ill be there.
yes a visit may be good for a few reasons. keep me informed if ya come up this way im sure we can get into some trouble, lol.
thorysus
02-19-2006, 06:37 PM
The name of the company is Wicked Jester, they have a website with the same name...lots of funny and wild shit there.
Shit man thanks for the lead to, theres some shits that are cool as hell there. I think some may be in my future!
joemichaels1982
02-20-2006, 06:06 PM
http://www.filecabi.net/video/ready-for-an-invasion.html
revidffum
02-20-2006, 08:05 PM
Which is EXACTLY why...we need to be ready too!!!
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e241/revidffum/m4.jpg
thorysus
02-21-2006, 01:30 AM
wow remind me to built a mud moat.
thorysus
02-21-2006, 02:17 PM
In an attempt to make this place run smooth im also adding this thread. Its kindda like a content links thing but only for this room. Feel free to reply and add more links as you come across them.
This post was orginaly done by white devil but somewhere along the lines i fucked it up so this is to let all credit go to who posted it.
Front page news (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060221/ap_on_go_co/port_security)
Belinda
02-21-2006, 02:46 PM
Please forgive my nasty ass spelling in this post. I don't know if you guys remember about 18 or 20 years ago, the leader of Iran...Iatolla Komainie offered a 1 million dollar bounty on the head of an author named Solamon Rushdey because his book had some shit in it about Islam and Allah...he went into hiding in England somewhere...it was all over the news.
I remember that was fatfa on Salman Ruzdi who wrote a book-Satanian wers and I read this book but still I don't understand why muslims are so angry on him
and he is still with bodygard and andercover.
revidffum
02-21-2006, 08:54 PM
I saw this shit on the news this morning...fuckin' nice huh?!?! The fucking morons running this country might as well just bring the nukes in for Bin Laden themselves and save him all the fucking trouble! I swear these fucktards are getting a little too comfy with screwing over the taxpayers.
evilfairygirl
02-21-2006, 09:04 PM
omg....that right there is fucked up. I saw that on the news as well and had to just sit and think about it for a second. Fuck them!!
revidffum
02-21-2006, 09:34 PM
I find it VERY hard to believe that they can say with even the slightest certainty that they would be able to account for all of the incoming containers alone...that doesn't even begin to account for other frieght they have to track and secure. Please...this is just a cluster fuck of a disaster, waiting to happen. Somebody (Bush most likely) is getting a BIG FAT PAYDAY from some group of Arabs...probabaly the Saudi's...the the Bin Laden family and papa Bush go way back. Who knows...but somebody is payin somebody something if this shit is gonna happen right under the publics nose.
Sanitarium
02-21-2006, 11:16 PM
Just watch some of the X-Files episodes... That'll give ya a wake up call, even tho not all of them are real, It still proves that things can go unnoticed for a LONG time
Strip n Maul!
02-21-2006, 11:43 PM
Front page news (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060221/ap_on_go_co/port_security)
There are MANY reasons this is a bad idea! First and foremost if U.A.E. (they own n RUN that Arab co.) is allowed to run our ports, they get instant ACCESS to our Homeland security protocols! Only 2-3% of all shipping containers are ACTUALLY inspected..MOST of the security in the ports comes from random inspections and the use of HIGHLY sensitive equipment that checks the trucks that leave with the containers...aanndd checks the containers as their loaded on to the trucks. POINT being MOST of the security is of clandstine nature!
FUCKING LIberals and BUSH for some reason... will say that the coast guard and security forces n inspectors will still be the SAME people and they are RIGHT! WHO FUCKING CARES!!!!! It's the INSTANT ACCESS to our Homeland Security protocols THAT is the FUCKING POINT!!!!
These BASTARDS will pass that info. along to cells in their country.....KNOCK, KNOCK..some of the 911 hijackers came from here!! This is INSANE! Nuff Said! Sen Frist Majority leader in the senate is trying to stop it...we'll see...Bush said he would Veto their efforts n pass it no matter what..FUCK!...Hope the Republicans in the senate (n some democrats) can BLOCK this!
thorysus
02-22-2006, 12:55 AM
Fuck that i dont want any mother assicoited with killing americans at my door step and i dont care who says there gonna watch them. this is the same thing. fuckin horrible! just downright bullshit! this is the type of shit that makes (or begins to make) militias needed.
Sanitarium
02-22-2006, 01:04 AM
Fuck that i dont want any mother assicoited with killing americans at my door step and i dont care who says there gonna watch them. this is the same thing. fuckin horrible! just downright bullshit! this is the type of shit that makes (or begins to make) militias needed.
Now you all know why I stock up and be wary of changes...
WHITE DEVIL
02-22-2006, 01:08 AM
Now you all know why I stock up and be wary of changes...
Changes bring out guerillas, which bring out militia, which brings out uprisings
Sanitarium
02-22-2006, 01:12 AM
Changes bring out guerillas, which bring out militia, which brings out uprisings
yes it does also leads to dictatorships
thorysus
02-22-2006, 01:14 AM
Yes indeed. some changes are good, like to stop electing born and breed policians into office, getting back to the foundations that this country was vuilt on etc......Other wise where this takes us will be no good. Good on ya stockin up! you are a wise man.
Uprisings also lead to the restoration of rights and way things should be!
WHITE DEVIL
02-22-2006, 01:15 AM
yes it does also leads to dictatorships
Yeah, your right. it either makes it or breaks it.
You know, the sad thing is that it took years to build the Roman Empire and it only took the wrong leader a matter of months to topple it to a pile of rubble.
thorysus
02-22-2006, 01:18 AM
Yeah, your right. it either makes it or breaks it.
thats cuz sometimes it just needs to be done.
Strip n Maul!
02-22-2006, 01:32 AM
Unless of course that uprising brings along a bunch of hip hop gangstas n the hip hop "culture" (Crips/Bloods/Gangsta rapper thugs) and then there are ALWAYS the White power/Meth freaks ( who by the way have their own militias)..... I prefer my "uprisings" to be campaigns for Lobby reform, Fund Raising reform....
Grass roots campaigns to get things on the ballot locally n statewide that the POLITICIANS can't STOP (see California)..and backing of candidates who are willing to work across the aisle who have the highest integrity there is as rated by "watchdog" groups..people like John McCain....Colin Powell..and Barack Abama are all worthy and speak straight..there are others however I follow those....
And this is said unto you by someone who owns enough weapons to ARM a small platoon of a MIlitia!! You wouldn't BELIEVE the stocks and supplies I hid n buried prior to Y2K in land at elavations no one goes to... in the Colorado Rockies that a few friends of mine and I own, a LOT of which by the way has been kept up quite nicely!
Only REASON I said that is so you guys would KNOW I'm NOT against being ARMED for my Country (already served as well) even TODAY..there's just things we can do in our system for CHANGE like I said above that fall FAR SHORT of that..AND without dragging the idiots along with us......my 2 cents...
thorysus
02-22-2006, 02:22 AM
Unless of course that uprising brings along a bunch of hip hop gangstas n the hip hop "culture" (Crips/Bloods/Gangsta rapper thugs) and then there are ALWAYS the White power/Meth freaks ( who by the way have their own militias)..... I prefer my "uprisings" to be campaigns for Lobby reform, Fund Raising reform....
Grass roots campaigns to get things on the ballot locally n statewide that the POLITICIANS can't STOP (see California)..and backing of candidates who are willing to work across the aisle who have the highest integrity there is as rated by "watchdog" groups..people like John McCain....Colin Powell..and Barack Abama are all worthy and speak straight..there are others however I follow those....
And this is said unto you by someone who owns enough weapons to ARM a small platoon of a MIlitia!! You wouldn't BELIEVE the stocks and supplies I hid n buried prior to Y2K in land at elavations no one goes to... in the Colorado Rockies that a few friends of mine and I own, a LOT of which by the way has been kept up quite nicely!
Only REASON I said that is so you guys would KNOW I'm NOT against being ARMED for my Country (already served as well) even TODAY..there's just things we can do in our system for CHANGE like I said above that fall FAR SHORT of that..AND without dragging the idiots along with us......my 2 cents...
yes thats all well and fine, i love and believe in the peace solutions. But when the time comes (and it will) we must all be ready. after all they cant walk on ya if you dont lay down. they can beat ya down but then they ar eto tired to walk on ya and you've made your make and/or made the path for the next one to come along.
thorysus
02-22-2006, 02:37 AM
militia info for those who feel they may want some, also some gun control ones as well.
http://mediafilter.org/caq/CAQ.militia.html
http://www.advweb.com/kw/misc/misc/kw_ptrt1.html
http://www.worldfreeinternet.net/news/nws35.htm
http://www.worldfreeinternet.net/news/nws35.htm
http://www.davekopel.com/2A/LawRev/IDEOLOGY%20OF%20GUN%20OWNERSHIP%20AND%20GUN%20CONT ROL.htm
http://www.guncite.com/journals/dk-ideo.html
WHITE DEVIL
02-22-2006, 02:39 AM
Circle the wagons maw...........we's going to war
Sanitarium
02-22-2006, 02:40 AM
I'm Locked & loaded ready for the revolution. BRING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Any of you emotional,pansy fuckers get out ofthe way or be stomped!
thorysus
02-22-2006, 02:43 AM
I'm Locked & loaded ready for the revolution. BRING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Any of you emotional,pansy fuckers get out ofthe way or be stomped!
thats right, its your right to not fight. that right we will fight for. our rights have been in fringed upon, dont tread on me!
Sanitarium
02-22-2006, 03:06 AM
thats right, its your right to not fight. that right we will fight for. our rights have been in fringed upon, dont tread on me!
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c167/Vette61327/tread.gif
Strip n Maul!
02-22-2006, 03:09 AM
yes thats all well and fine, i love and believe in the peace solutions. But when the time comes (and it will) we must all be ready. after all they cant walk on ya if you dont lay down. they can beat ya down but then they ar eto tired to walk on ya and you've made your make and/or made the path for the next one to come along.
Good we agree on peaceful solution IF possible.......
And know this anyone that tries to walk on or over my "Mauldom" will be met with a HAIL of lead/fire/fleshettes/ball bearings and my fav White Phosphurus (go ahead jump in the water it'll STILL burn ya to a crisp!), at my house or even WORSE with me n my "Boyz" on a Colorado Moutain Slope that would be Red Dawn x20 to put it conservatively!
Sanitarium
02-22-2006, 03:09 AM
Thor & Maul--
Your political insights are tremodous to say the least. I value your input and look forward to debating with you 2 at a future date.
WHITE DEVIL
02-22-2006, 03:17 AM
shoot now, shoot later, fuck asking questions
Strip n Maul!
02-22-2006, 03:43 AM
Thor & Maul--
Your political insights are tremodous to say the least. I value your input and look forward to debating with you 2 at a future date.
Here, Here, (Mrs. Maul in background "Not another one..come to bed!) and another BEER on that one! ENJOY it I do!!
thorysus
02-22-2006, 04:09 AM
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c167/Vette61327/tread.gif
old school man! yes for all you young/new ones this was around before ted nuggent.
Redneck
02-23-2006, 03:24 AM
the Supreme Court ruled on what exactly "militia" means.
"Any American citizen legally owning arms".
When ya study the origins of the American military, ya find it was begun by the people, literally. The National Guard pre-dates all other branches. The first person to ever live in West Virginia became a Guardsman. Col. Morgan Morgan.
The Second Amendment, which rendered famous and eternal the word "militia" is a subtle several sided thing. Most people understand it was primarily intended as a way of preserving the people's right to fight back should tyranny ever arise domestically (and a lot of assholes have tried, BTW), and secondarily, it was intended as a backup should a foreign invader ever attempt to commit mass suicide by trespassing here. A rarely ever spoken of idea following up these two main points if my favorite one, that the people have the backs of our soldiers.
Then, I am a militiaman, because I stand ready to kill any piece of shit who fucks with our soldiers or our people. When heroes fall for freedom, I am already prepared to join the fight.
Civilian HOOAH's to all....
thorysus
02-23-2006, 03:45 AM
the Supreme Court ruled on what exactly "militia" means.
"Any American citizen legally owning arms".
When ya study the origins of the American military, ya find it was begun by the people, literally. The National Guard pre-dates all other branches. The first person to ever live in West Virginia became a Guardsman. Col. Morgan Morgan.
The Second Amendment, which rendered famous and eternal the word "militia" is a subtle several sided thing. Most people understand it was primarily intended as a way of preserving the people's right to fight back should tyranny ever arise domestically (and a lot of assholes have tried, BTW), and secondarily, it was intended as a backup should a foreign invader ever attempt to commit mass suicide by trespassing here. A rarely ever spoken of idea following up these two main points if my favorite one, that the people have the backs of our soldiers.
Then, I am a militiaman, because I stand ready to kill any piece of shit who fucks with our soldiers or our people. When heroes fall for freedom, I am already prepared to join the fight.
Civilian HOOAH's to all....
fuck yeah brother man, fuck yeah. While i will never be a part of the military again i will hold true to that if foreighn invaders come here i will by all means nessary defend and protect not this countrys money, wealth, big buisness, etc... but this land and the PEOPLE!!!
ya know it never dawned on me that outside some of the controling goverments branches and a few propaganda miss led civilians that most people didnt know that local militias are all about homeland defense. they are the original and often train for such things. Some local militias even offer thier help in finding and searching for missing people and children. most legit and regisistered militias are all for the helping of people in thier time of need.
Sanitarium
02-23-2006, 03:48 AM
fuck yeah brother man, fuck yeah. While i will never be a part of the military again i will hold true to that if foreighn invaders come here i will by all means nessary defend and protect not this countrys money, wealth, big buisness, etc... but this land and the PEOPLE!!!
ya know it never dawned on me that outside some of the controling goverments branches and a few propaganda miss led civilians that most people didnt know that local militias are all about homeland defense. they are the original and often train for such things. Some local militias even offer thier help in finding and searching for missing people and children. most legit and regisistered militias are all for the helping of people in thier time of need.
Good post bro!
thorysus
02-24-2006, 05:44 AM
shit revirffum thems some cool as links. I loved the first one, its so true. shit thanks man i appreicate it! good research and good post.
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